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    Well with the retcon. She was in Betsy the whole time. So every experience Betsy has had its insinuated that 'Kwannon' was there too.

    He said that 'Kwannon' was in Betsy when she did the iconic psy-knife to Magneto's head.

    So playing DA. She did kind of serve under the Mandarin.

    So thats the writers mindset on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGAR View Post
    Well with the retcon. She was in Betsy the whole time. So every experience Betsy has had its insinuated that 'Kwannon' was there too.

    He said that 'Kwannon' was in Betsy when she did the iconic psy-knife to Magneto's head.

    So playing DA. She did kind of serve under the Mandarin.

    So thats the writers mindset on that.
    That was after she died. The two were seperate when they were alive, which was when Betsy served under Mandarin. Kwannon hitched a ride onto Betsy's brain when she no longer had a living body

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    I thought she was always Japanese? An assassin for the Hand and servant of Matsuo, who is also Japanese.
    Betsy was found in the South China Sea after her trip through the Siege Perilous(and was still Caucasian). And was altered by Lord Mandarin in Hong Kong. And when first unleashed, Psyocke(as Lady Mandarin) spoke Cantonese. There is nothing in those first stories that suggested she was supposed to be Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    That was after she died. The two were seperate when they were alive, which was when Betsy served under Mandarin. Kwannon hitched a ride onto Betsy's brain when she no longer had a living body
    Well thanks for that. Didn't even think about it like that and kind of makes it better in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Betsy was found in the South China Sea after her trip through the Siege Perilous(and was still Caucasian). And was altered by Lord Mandarin in Hong Kong. And when first unleashed, Psyocke(as Lady Mandarin) spoke Cantonese. There is nothing in those first stories that suggested she was supposed to be Japanese.
    That was Betsy in Claremont's story. Kwannon was created by Nicieza and her backstory had her as always Japanese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    That was after she died. The two were seperate when they were alive, which was when Betsy served under Mandarin. Kwannon hitched a ride onto Betsy's brain when she no longer had a living body
    But how did she manage to do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    But how did she manage to do that?
    Nonlogical comics shenanigans. It happened. I dont expect any details as it doesnt really make much sense but whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    But how did she manage to do that?
    Probably something similar to how Jean absorbed all of Madelyne’s memories, soul, and power. Their souls were so closely entwined, that maybe her soul latched onto her old body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Probably something similar to how Jean absorbed all of Madelyne’s memories, soul, and power. Their souls were so closely entwined, that maybe her soul latched onto her old body?
    Its kind of different though as Jean didnt absorb Maddie. The Phoenix Force merged Jean with her and did so bc it part of Jean's soul which gave Maddie life. Kwannon and Betsy werent even on the same continent when she died and Betsy herself died

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    I guess it depends on when exactly the mutant formerly known as Kwannon started hitching a ride with Betsy in her own body?

    If she was there since she died in Betsy's body, then I guess you could say "because comics"
    Or maybe she got pulled back to life the same time Betsy did when Jamie Braddock resurrected her body with Betsy in it
    Or maybe it has something to do with the Sisterhood arc, Maddie placed Betsy back into her original body for a little while until Dazzler melted her face off

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    Basically the two were completely separated until recently when Marvel wanted Betsy back in a British body and then change her into a tank for this current version of Excalibur...so they just retconned things to fit what they wanted...

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    Sounds good.

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    X-MEN #9
    JONATHAN HICKMAN (W) • LEINIL FRANCIS YU (A) • Cover by LEINIL FRANCIS YU
    GET READY TO RUN!
    The New Mutants are back from space, and they’ve brought intergalactic trouble with them! The Brood! The Shi’ar! The Starjammers! The Imperial Guard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    I imagine this will probably be an X-Line event happening across all books.

    Seems like too big of a deal to keep contained in X-Men only. Also goddamn! Issue #9?
    Last edited by loke13; 12-16-2019 at 09:32 AM.

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    Nice cover.

    Yu is great when he wants.

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