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[ExodusCloak]

Megan also sacrificed her life stopping that Chaos Wave which stopped Saturnyne from cauterising 616. And we'll crickets.

Instead of address it, its been deny deny deny and that has not helped matters. Well up until Empyre where she finally took responsibility and apart from the clusterf*co was actually the first step to healing by acknowledging there is a problem

[RachelGrey]

The reason mutants (and fans) can't let Wanda go is because she got scot-free and not only that, anyone that tried to have her punished was portrayed as the bad guy, while the X-men were punished, sent to jail, persecuted by the government, ostracized by other heroes, etc, for much less. Hard to see Cyclops, Emma, Magik and Colossus having to become fugitives and other heroes looking at them with contempt while Wanda is in a government sponsored team designed for mutant unity and the Avengers protect her.

The US Government used M-Day as an excuse to round up all the mutants at the X-mansion and treated it like a prison camp that they could only leave if they got permission from the US government. There was a reason that anytime any Avenger wanted to talk to Emma and Scott they had to go to the X-Mansion, because the mutants could only leave the mansion with government authorization.

When things escalated too far, the X-men moved to San Francisco when they mayor their granted them amnesty and safety from government control in her city after they saved San Francisco. Eventually they moved to Utopia off the coast, I believe Namor helped them build the island to live on.

But for years the mutants were treated as a highly persecuted minority in the United States and all of their movements were monitored. Every single mutant was being monitored by the O.N.E. and some being quietly imprisoned and experimented on. All of this being done by Tony Stark and Steve Rodgers beloved US government that they fully supported.

[Gray Lensman]

A trial can also lead to a sentence for the Scarlet Witch...

But there is NO logical reason for me why Apocalypse or Mr. Sinister or Selene are forgiven. Sorry. They are absolutely disgusting monsters similarly to the Scarlet Witch. But at least the Scarlet Witch was manipulated and mentally unstable while she committed her crimes....The former three are just evil and also complicit in genocide.

And what about Jean Grey? She (or at least an absolute copy of herself) destroyed a planet.

For a real world analogy, Operation Paper Clip says hi. The same principle likely applies here. The need for, or at least usefulness of, the mutant criminals in question is seen as outweighing the need to punish them for any crimes. After the Second World War the US brought over several Nazi scientists to give a boost in the Cold War, despite many of them ranging from amoral in the pursuit of science to hard-core monsters. Nations do not practice the same morality as people, and never really have no matter what we think about it.

[king of hybrids]

We need to draw a line under this one way or the other. Every mention of Wanda cannot turn into a 5-25 page epic derail

In the original story, but in the retcon Wanda sought out Dr Doom to summon the Life Force despite knowing it was forbidden/dark magic and that drove her crazy.

Doom then said he was involved and they all looked at him skeptically considering he was living his nightmare in HoM being an errand boy.

In fairness, Doom’s plans* literally blowing up in his face is a rather recurrent them whenever Marvel writers remember he’s a petty little man despite his vast skills/resources and not some noble demon

*give an emotionally unstable Witch reality altering powers that will inevitably destroy the main mutate hero team and potentially hinder/damage a long-term demographic threat to the ‘inevitability’ of his takeover

[gonnagiveittoya]

Paperclip is a very bad comparison because the people brought over worked for the government, not tasked with running it or representing it. Bringing a Nazi in to build rockets and tanks is different than bringing them on to be Secretary of State.

[Outburstz]

Paperclip is a very bad comparison because the people brought over worked for the government, not tasked with running it.

As if that would make a difference to the people on this forum who hate the fact that the villains are on Krakoa

[Gray Lensman]

Paperclip is a very bad comparison because the people brought over worked for the government, not tasked with running it or representing it. Bringing a Nazi in to build rockets and tanks is different than bringing them on to be Secretary of State.

Not as bad a comparison as you suggest, since those running the government ARE the rocket scientists and biologists. The villains on the council mostly have incredible scientific or engineering knowledge, vast financial resources, or enormous political influence on top of personal mutant powers.

I don't overly like it, and I'm waiting for the thread holding that particular Sword of Damocles to snap, but I can still understand the "reasons of state" behind the decisions.

[cam18]

That would be rather difficult seeing how the current x-books regularly remind us of her presence as a pall hanging over everything

That is something they need to get away from imo.......the Whole Decimation crap drove me away from the X books for quite a while

[cam18]

The more I think about it I just really dislike that this Avengers character was used to so imo negatively affect the X franchise for so long......And the MCU has created all of these newfound Wanda fans who think she is the strongest marvel character who would destroy Phoenix,Jean,Storm etc.....

[gonnagiveittoya]

Wanda was as much associated with the X-Men as she was with the Avengers at the time. Hell that's the reason why Pietro and Wanda in the movies were legally both Fox characters and Disney characters pre merger.

[cranger]

The Trial of Magneto was a great story. I don't trust modern writers to get it. Best handwave everything away.

[ExodusCloak]

Wanda was as much associated with the X-Men as she was with the Avengers at the time. Hell that's the reason why Pietro and Wanda in the movies were legally both Fox characters and Disney characters pre merger.

That's not true, Wanda had not been in an X-book for ages. However, Marvel registered their characters was more likely the issue as Wandas first appearance was Uncanny X-Men. The same applies to Namor being leased as FF4 property despite being involved with the Avengers for so long.

And if you read Bendis interviews he wanted an Avenger to be the cause.

[cam18]

Wanda was as much associated with the X-Men as she was with the Avengers at the time. Hell that's the reason why Pietro and Wanda in the movies were legally both Fox characters and Disney characters pre merger.

Nah she is an avenger thru and thru with some connections to the X-Men but the association level is not the same

[From The Shadows]

Wanda got off scot free but who really doesn't? Not villains. Not heroes that do bad things even. Why start the apologies now?

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

Wanda got off scot free but who really doesn't? Not villains. Not heroes that do bad things even. Why start the apologies now?

Humans are very interested in tribalism.