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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Make a guy that worked for nazis funny is not cool
    I agree.

    But we could probably argue that this was a different clone/incarnation of Sinister?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Make a guy that worked for nazis funny is not cool
    Being a ridiculous super villain with a garish design and a silly name like "Mr. Sinister" but playing it dead serious is still undermining the seriousness of his actions in an insulting way to begin with.

    The self aware camp and dark humor at least is more honest about how inherently ludicrous he is, but still can be disarming and make the reminders of how monstrous he is (like when Nanny discovered those discarded children's bodies in the orphanage) more effective. Enjoying a villain for dark humor/entertainment purposes is not the same as thinking he's a hero or "Nazis are cool" or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    I agree.

    But we could probably argue that this was a different clone/incarnation of Sinister?
    This is what i thought, it is just a clone going a bit sideways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    At least he's still a misogynist.
    And thank the Goddess for that.
    At least he's still the villain I can love to hate and hate to love...now that o--[A]--o is off in Amenth playing devoted husband and father. *sob!!!!*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    And thank the Goddess for that.
    At least he's still the villain I can love to hate and hate to love...now that o--[A]--o is off in Amenth playing devoted husband and father. *sob!!!!*
    We will get through. Somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post
    We will get through. Somehow.
    Oh Sibling! My breaking heart!

    I don't know if I can! Or even if I want to! *runs off in abject pain and misery to drown my never-ending sorrows in a Krakoan Black tea and ginger blend, at the GL*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Make a guy that worked for nazis funny is not cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    He isnt funny and all the time ant-man was disgusted by working with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    He isnt funny and all the time ant-man was disgusted by working with him
    He is a man made of bees who is a Nazi.

    He is inherently funny. Look at that face. He is like ;<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    He is a man made of bees who is a Nazi.

    He is inherently funny. Look at that face. He is like ;<
    it is called having consequences and karma, I really dont think it is funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Make a guy that worked for nazis funny is not cool
    What about Wonder Man and half the Thunderbolts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    it is called having consequences and karma, I really dont think it is funny.
    If the X-Men can't be in nations where Nazi scientists have worked without consequences, they should have founded Krakoa much earlier to leave USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    He is a man made of bees who is a Nazi.

    He is inherently funny. Look at that face. He is like ;<
    This is in the running for Post of the Month...This had me LOLOLOLOLOLOL-ing so hard.
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    There's a balance with nazi characters where you can ridicule them (with either a silly premise, costume and etc) while still showing how morally reprehensible they are. Plus with nazi characters you sometimes you gotta make sure they don't end up being appropriated by white supremacists as a symbol, like how the boys had stormfront played by a jewish actress in the show while in the comic the character is a wasp guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    well, the queer-coded villain is also not the most unique creation...Disney does it for a very very long time.

    (although I very much enjoy campy Sinister. now that there is so much more queer representation it is a lot less offensive than, let's say, in the 1980s and 1990s).
    I mean just with the X-men Mystique and Destiny were queercoded villains before they were confirmed as being gay, Poison Ivy was coded as a man hating lesbian for a while and the list goes on.

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