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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    For me they are fresh memories of the past. Like new unlocked memories

    Angel really got messed up, h elost his virginity to Laura.
    Know what that might be why he likes psylock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    I think the "feels like yesterday" is the wrong direction to go.

    I mean what would that mean for how Warren views Laura?
    It's a good thing that Romeo and Gazing Nightshade have dropped off the face of the Earth
    Warren and Laura broke up around the time Laura's solo creative team changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    If the O5 memories are considered old memories so no one in the X-Office has to actually consider them when writing the characters because they don't want to, then that just emphasizes how pointless it was to add them. And neither the memories feeling old or the memories feeling fresh makes more or less sense than the other, because this is a fictional concept.

    Yes, the teen romances are creepy now, almost as if they were written with the idea that the O5 would become fully independent and not square pegs forced into round holes.
    That's EXACTLY what it was, they were not originally intended to be merged. When Hopeless ended his All-New X-Men run by showing a duplicate O5 in the past, it was intended that this would reveal that the time displaced O5 were AU all along. That's also why they allowed Cyclops to join the Champions (he left that team when it had a creative team change, as by that point Bunn had already started resolving the problem revealed in ANXM's finale). Bunn originally planned to end Blue by having them become the new Exiles (the Cross Time Capers arc is probably a remnant of that), but editorial made two decisions which thwarted that. Firstly, they commissioned a different Exiles series, controlled by the Avengers office. And then, they took the O5 off Bunn and had Brisson write them out in Extermination.
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    Pretty sure a rich boy like Warren lost his virginity before his wings grew out.
    "Cable was right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Maybe its the blonde Icarus from Phoenix Resurrection
    i hope so. it can happen, right? doesn’t nate have the life seed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Warren and Laura broke up around the time Laura's solo creative team changed.
    POSSIBLY as early as Orphans of X. Their status was pretty ambiguous in the last half of ANW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    POSSIBLY as early as Orphans of X. Their status was pretty ambiguous in the last half of ANW.
    Still so weird that they never properly showed what happen lol.

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    Don't see a problem with the O5 memory comments. The way memory works, it's possible that it can feel both recent and a long time past at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Warren and Laura broke up around the time Laura's solo creative team changed.
    That's not the problem. In Zub's interpretation Warren broke up with teenaged Laura a few months ago, and he remembers dating this teenager as if it were yesterday.
    He suddenly remembers having an intimate relationship with this girl and probably still has romantic feelings for her and she is much younger than him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Still so weird that they never properly showed what happen lol.
    That entire "relationship" was a failure in basic storytelling.
    Context is king.

    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    That's not the problem. In Zub's interpretation Warren broke up with teenaged Laura a few months ago, and he remembers dating this teenager as if it were yesterday.
    He suddenly remembers having an intimate relationship with this girl and probably still has romantic feelings for her and she is much younger than him now.
    Even if he remember like it was yesterday, it would be moot, Warren isn't going to do anything about and whatever feelings he migth have for her would banish with time, plus he has tons of Archangel and/or Psylocke angst to keep him busy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Still so weird that they never properly showed what happen lol.
    Writers just decided to stop writing them as if they were dating. WEIRD CHOICE

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    That's probably because of the changeover from All-New X-Men to X-Men Blue. Blue pretty much ignored the relationship but All-New Wolverine carried on as it was. Maybe Laura found out about Warren flirting with that cop, and dumped him? I guess with the creative teams having since shuffled again, we'll never know.
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    Shade will be back with a new Code Name : Darkveil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by razzmatazz360 View Post
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    Shade will be back with a new Code Name : Darkveil!
    Literally who?

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