"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
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Come on, you guys know Wolverine is as much of a hero as Cyclops. No need to bash one character or the other.
Aw, come on, Logan's a TRU HERO. He was totally going to do something selfless and awesome. That's why a telepath and precog felt they had to intervene. Mmm. Wait...
Shhh. Hero. Tru.
For the sake of fairness, wouldn't it be fair to assume Emma gave him the knowledge of the New Mutants and Havok's location? I'll always be down for mocking Logan's funeral-skipping shenanigans, but the jailbreak "delay" can't really be pined on him anymore, can it?
Anyway, on the subject of "It's not Logan's job to help out other mutants who actually TRY to do anything about anything!"...
Insert joke about Irony on cocaine or something.
I have a hard time believing that Logan wouldn't do something to help Scott without emma hving to mind control him.
I guess even Wolverine isn't immune to make Emma look beter at his expense
I’ll be honest, I may be one of the few Wolverine fans who kind of enjoyed that Logan wasn’t always a hero at his core. He was a ruthless bastard, though not as downright evil as Creed. But willing to commit evil acts in the name of his government masters (or Romulus, who was apparently behind it all). It was like Way and Loeb took Stryker’s line from X2 and ran with it in the books: “You were always an animal, Logan! I just gave you claws.”
But after being mind-wiped and brainwashed by Weapon X he kind of started over and is trying to be a better man. To me that’s okay honestly. I don’t need for him to have been a hero all along to root for him now.
It had a very bad drop off after issue 1, due to issue 1 having 70 variant covers all requiring different amounts of the base cover.
Return 1 was 260,410 (in reality this is closer to 100,00 without variants inflating it)
Return 2 was 80,060
Return 3 60,312
Return 4 58,560
Return 5 59,313
Last edited by Dthirds3; 06-29-2019 at 10:20 AM.
Logan was always a wild man with the heart of a beast, he did ruthless stuff at some point, but it stated that he did it because he didn't saw other choice at the moment, kill one being to save hundreds, like putting that bear at the beginning of the Wolverine mini out of comission. Way didn't do that, his Logan was just a puppet that followed orders and basically has no agency for most of his life worse than that he basically told us that any moment of his 80s and 90s incarnation were lies, he didn't even join the X-Men by his own will, he was send there by Romulus and then Xavier brainwashed him into a good guy, that for me just destroy him conceptually as a characther. Loeb goes even worse by implying that Logan founded Weapon X.
Is not even "He was bad, but now he wants redemption" is pretty much "he was always a bastard and only stopped being one because he was forced" that just make everything that i read about Logan from 77 to 94 (his best period) a lie and i'm simply not ok with that.
Last edited by TheCape; 06-29-2019 at 10:25 AM.
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona
Really? FUCKING REALLY?
Your blind hatred for Emma is absurd.
This is Logan being written 100% in character, one of the few times in the entire run that ANY character has been.
Especially since this entire run has just been one excuse after another to take a massive steaming dump all over Emma. I'm shocked you're not ecstatic over this run.
It's entirely in character for Logan. The only two people he gives two craps about (Jean and debatably Laura) are dead as far as he knows. Going out getting drunk and waiting for the end of the world is exactly what OML did.
I can only hope this run will be forgotten. But considering Hickman's "favorites" are Magneto and the White Queen of the Hellfire Club, I imagine this is setting up Mags, Sabretooth, Mystique, and Emma skulking around wondering how they can get those meddling X-Men before they stop their plans of world domination. I hope I'm wrong though.
You also forgot Kurt, Piort, Jubilee, Kitty, Rogue, Gambit, Storm, all of the are closer to Logan than Jean ever was (and he still cares about her), hell no one is more important for Logan than Kurt. I'm not going to debate about what Emma did, because i haven't read those issues, but saying that cares only about those 2 is a big lie.
Also Old Man Logan tried to kill himself because he was responsible for the X-Men's death and decided to kill his past in order to protect his new family (wich didn't pan out well).
Last edited by TheCape; 06-29-2019 at 12:26 PM.
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona