For some reason Marvel rejected the proposal that the cover of Scott and Logan in Uncanny # 22 be this one.
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Ha. Very true. But all that came afterwards in the crappy XMO:W. At the time of X2, I feel very confident they had something different in mind in terms of his nature prior to Weapon X.
Not sure I agree that everything we’ve read about Logan that came before was a lie. People have layers. They have good moments and not so good moments. Furthermore, I think Logan’s “being a puppet who was just following orders” shows just how deep Romulus had his hooks in him and was manipulating him. It was almost like he was a Manchurian Candidate type operative who didn’t even realize he was being manipulated during that time. And he wasn’t that way all the time. When he wasn’t being triggered and deployed by Romulus, he was free to be more himself. That’s when we saw a nobler side to him.
Hmm... here’s an interesting theory: If the mindwipe and torture at the hands of Weapon X is what freed Logan from Romulus’ control ultimately, and we are to believe the latter that the Weapon X program to make “superhero killers” was Logan’s idea, is it possible that he knew this might be his way to break free?
Probably not Loeb’s intent. But might be a cool way to twist an otherwise kind of crappy story. At least IMO.
Regardless, all I’m saying is that I don’t hate or even have a problem with Logan not having been a good person prior to Weapon X. I don’t even hate him having been retconned into being a plant with the X-men sent to assassinate Xavier. Similar to Ultimate X-men actually. It’s not something that bothers me or turns me off to the character and who he is today. I’m at peace with it.
OML was trying to avoid his own timeline on his solo series. So I'm not sure that he would stop trying to protect mutants just to get drunk
Magneto and Emma are his favorite characters, if anything like sam and roberto on avengers, Emma fans are about to get a Morrison/Whedon 2.0 Emma renaiscense; Soon everyone gonna forget rosenberg run
Hickman never said white queen of hellfire club, just white queen that was her codename for decades
Of all the “dead” X-Men that Logan considers family: Ororo, Kurt, Kitty, Hank, Rachel, Cece, Jubilee, Idie, Hisako, Piotr, and Betsy. Plus, Logan was pretty involved with all the kids enrolled during JGS except like Hellion. The only kid he’s sure is alive from that school is Quentin.
We saw Logan acting without Romulus influence in the series, he killed a bunch of japanese prisioners in the process, he didn't show layers, he was either an animal or an animal with a leash most of the time, his only redeming thing was how he treated his lovers and even then the run implied that Logan used then as an excuse to be more violent.
Also Weapon X didn't free Logan from Romulus control he was still his pupet during his first figth with Hulk, it was Xavier who freed him. That kind of story works for Ultimate Wolverine, because that version was a bastard from day one and his redemption is more effective, but that doesn't work for the main version, it change too much about what we knew about him.
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"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
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goddamn x-office can't bring the UWUs everybody else gotta do it for 'em
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Amazing how the books that are not related to the X-men franchise have continually treating the X-men characters so well compared to their parent office.
He sort of acted like an uncle to the New Mutants in the old days, there is an annual when he telling a story about a female samurai in a campfire. Although Sam was the only one that really got close to him (he even defended him from Juggernaut), but generally, Logan doesn't interact with kids longer that needs too, he is aware that he is a terrible influence, his tight friendships with his sidekicks were more accidental than anything to be honest.Has Logan been close to any generation of students besides the JGS crew? I guess the New Mutants kinda sorta? He treats most of the Academy X kids like kids he desperately wants to ignore.
I had to read Venom books in order to get a proper 616 Wolverine tale, that just tell you what you need to know.Amazing how the books that are not related to the X-men franchise have continually treating the X-men characters so well compared to their parent office.
"Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
Wolverine, Venom Annual # 1 (2018)
Nobody does it better by Jeff Loveness
"I am Thou, Thou Art I"
Persona