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    Is this Avengers run even doing well. I don't get why they need to use the Phoenix force. But carry on Jason Aaron. Carry on.

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    The PF is now just Cosmic Syphilis. Jean was right in rejecting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dthirds3 View Post
    ...... why just why
    Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    To be fair, in AvX that was clearly shown to be an aberration.

    In Secret Wars, we know Hickman originally wanted Teen Jean to be the one using it (she even shows up in the covers as part of the event) and that was changed for some reason, as well as Cyclops getting it and getting killed quickly (my guess is that due to the Inhumans/Cyclops is Hitler non-sense, editorial at last minute decided Cyke shouldn't have had a relevant role).
    What we got in AvX and Secret Wars and Endsong/Warsong before that was nonsense about random people getting the Phoenix. Cyclops even got a White Phoenix of the Crown outfit.

    Maybe we'll see Captain America become the one true Phoenix host.
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    I am fine with Cyclops and Rachel hosting the Phoenix as they have strong personal connections to Jean and the Phoenix. Scott was the host even in that X-Men / Teen Titans crossover that Claremont wrote.

    But with characters like Thor, Namor or Thane is just dumb.

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    Is that Shang Chi?

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    Marvel keeps butchering that bird. I'm honestly hoping Hickman has plans for the Phoenix, and can fix this mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Is that Shang Chi?
    Yes. But he and Wolverine are not Avengers right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGAR View Post
    Is this Avengers run even doing well. I don't get why they need to use the Phoenix force. But carry on Jason Aaron. Carry on.
    It sells average. Nothing great, just ok. Some issues gets a second reprint. I didn't follow it, but the art, especially the Mcguinness work caught my attention and I bought the TPBs. It is a funny series, Aaron tells his story and has little or no relationship with what happens in the Marvel Universe, leaving War of the Realms aside, the best thing I think is everything that surrounds The B.C. Avengers and art. Among ordinary readers the taste for the series may be divided but I get the impression from the issue-by-issue reviews that I read that it has been well accepted among "specialized critics".
    Yu confirmed on twitter that X-Men 12 is his last interior work and that he will continue with the covers.

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    I briefly mistook Phoenix Panther for Power Phoenix...I actually like seeing T'Challa wearing a diadem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    I am fine with Cyclops and Rachel hosting the Phoenix as they have strong personal connections to Jean and the Phoenix. Scott was the host even in that X-Men / Teen Titans crossover that Claremont wrote.

    But with characters like Thor, Namor or Thane is just dumb.
    I mean, if just knowing of Jean Grey gives you the power to host the Phoenix, she met Namor once as a child and then became his team captain as an adult. Fought in a 2-on-many brawl with Thor. Thane has probably heard of Dark Phoenix Jean at least. It all makes sense they should have the Phoenix.

    Cap helped out in X-Men Red. He's the obvious rightful heir.

    Edit: Actually it should be Black Panther. He and Jean became friends in X-Men Red as well and he's close to Storm, who is friends with Jean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulsword323 View Post
    Marvel keeps butchering that bird. I'm honestly hoping Hickman has plans for the Phoenix, and can fix this mess.
    Phoenix Cyclops to the rescue. There is no God Doom to stop him this time.
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    Finally a little respect for Gambit ????

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    Finally some respect for Claremont.

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    Cooool!!! Excited for that!

    I hope it is really old school bad ass Claremont's best Gambit!

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    Well this is a welcome surprise!
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