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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Midnight View Post
    Mastermind didn't look like he was in his prime.
    Old and ugly are part of his mutation.
    Quote Originally Posted by The General, JLA #38
    'Why?' Just to see the disappointment on your corn-fed, gee-whiz face, Superman. And because a great dark voice on the edge of nothing spoke to me and said you all had to die. There is no 'Why?'

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    Incredibly excited to see the Vault subplot picked back up. I can only hope this leads to a team that includes these three as core members. But even if it doesn't, I'm stoked to find out what happened to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    I kind of view it as him taking his power back. Asserting his control over what they made him, as opposed to vice versa and being controlled. Embracing the fact that he is a weapon, designed to do the things other heroes just can’t or won’t do. But he does it by his own moral code. Makes sense to me anyway, and I think a good writer like Percy could sell it.




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    Agree to disagree here. For me this is not taking his powers back, it is a defeat.
    After all the stories I recall reading about him and the Weapon x project, the weapon x projekt abducted him, experimented on him, tried to take his humanity from him. (Wolverine black white and blood is a good example, how he views it). I always loved the character for striving for his humanity in all his savagery. He always tried to be a better man. Even in the knowledge that he might never be able to reach his goal. For me it would be a declaration of defeat, him going by Weapon X. Lauras fans hated for her to take the codename x 23 and giving it her own definition, this is the same as you suggests for Logan with the codename Weapon x. What goes for Laura applies also for Logan here, in my opinion.

    Wolverine Black white and blood:
    Logan:
    '...They took it all....swiped everything from me...'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21;5231631....
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    Agree. It always made Logan highly interesting back in the 80s, when the other heroes kind of feared him at times thinking he was a murderous psychopath. Gave him an edge. And since the rumors indicate that the MCU could go in this direction with his eventual introduction there, it would seem like the timing would be right for this kind of shift in direction.

    It’s interesting to think about it anyway. Doubt it will happen. Probably they’ll just both go by Wolverine, which for some reason is more annoying to me personally. They’ve done that with Peter Parker and Miles Morales, though. And it seems to be working okay. But I’m not nearly as big of a Spider-man fan as I am a Wolverine one, hence why it doesn’t bother me over there in the Spidey books.
    But I agree with this.
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    Well, there’s also the possibility that he just passes on the codename, and his series gets retitled to Weapon X but he doesn’t actually go by that. Just Logan.

    Or maybe they’re just both Wolverine. Could be humorous.

    “Wolverine...”

    “Which one?”

    Ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    Well, there’s also the possibility that he just passes on the codename, and his series gets retitled to Weapon X but he doesn’t actually go by that. Just Logan.

    Or maybe they’re just both Wolverine. Could be humorous.

    “Wolverine...”

    “Which one?”

    Ha.
    Yup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    Bigger...
    Lord, I forgot they where still gone. lol
    Some of us wait, some of us act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    They have copies of Apocalypse, which has thousands of years of memories. I don't think 500 years is problematic for Cerebro.
    Not the amount of time, but rather than the CotV infected them with a virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viteh View Post
    Not the amount of time, but rather than the CotV infected them with a virus
    A telepathic virus? Well, that's why they have redundant copies of Cerebro. Unless they have magic like Otherworld, if a copy gets corrupted they can use a previous one.

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    I haven’t seen this one before. Looks like a X of Swords variant...

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    LOVE that the Vault squad is coming back! My boo, Ev.
    I'd actually be very interested in seeing an aged Laura. Being all woman-y.
    "Danielle... I intend to do something rash and violent." - Betsy Braddock
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    I'm one that supports Logan keeping his Wolverine title. It's his name it's always been his name since his debut, why should he lose it or have to give it up to Laura? When people hear the name Wolverine they think Logan like they hear Batman they think Bruce Wayne. Besides people want Laura to not be in Logan's shadow, they want her to be her own person and stand on her own feet. Hell some think she's better than Logan in all aspects so why does she need his name? Why can't she get her own original unique name to personalize herself, instead it's lets give her the Wolverine name because reasons. And don't say the she "earned" it because that's lazy. How exactly did she "earn" it, by doing what, and how did Logan "un earn" it? Logan has done nothing to warrant losing his title and having it handed to Laura. It's actions like this that makes people hate legacy characters, the the originals are done dirty to prop up the legacies. Logan is the one and only Wolverine, the original and the best. Some hate him for their own reasons but he's popular and enduring and he's not going anywhere. Laura is also here to stay and has her fans to be sure, but let her stand on her own without Logan's title as a crutch. X23 was a fine name, if she and her fans don't like that name then come up with a new one all her own. Logan is Wolverine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    Well, there’s also the possibility that he just passes on the codename, and his series gets retitled to Weapon X but he doesn’t actually go by that. Just Logan.

    Or maybe they’re just both Wolverine. Could be humorous.

    “Wolverine...”

    “Which one?”

    Ha.
    If DC can have 5000 green lanterns and have everyon know exactly witch you talking about i think we can handle 2 wolverine

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    Isnt that because anyone can be a Green Lantern with a ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGAR View Post
    Isnt that because anyone can be a Green Lantern with a ring?
    In theory yes. There is like 8 earth green lanterns, when the rule is like one per sector, it dilutes the brand a bit
    of course there is the aliens green lanterns but they rarely get solos

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