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    Have we confirmed who this young woman is, Bets in the form of Kwannon, a newly freed Kwannon? Or some combination of both people, because I'm unclear on what or who the narrative is following.
    I think it’s Kwannon. Every description I’ve read just says Psylocke and not Betsy. One could argue that because it’s AU, Betsy could still be Psylocke, but I doubt Marvel would do that.

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    Never would have guessed Lashley provided the cover art. lol!

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    Heroes Reborn: Siege Society by writer Cody Ziglar and artist Paco Medina is a 'Heroes Reborn' reimagining of the Masters of Evil and/or the Thunderbolts concept, with very familiar names joining the line-up.

    Baron Zemo remains the leader and he's joined by Victor Creed, otherwise known in the mainstream Marvel Universe as X-Men villain/sometimes-ally Sabretooth.

    But rounding out the line-up is three superheroes with villainous pasts or origins -Natasha Romanov (Black Widow), Clint Barton (Hawkeye), and Scott Lang (Ant-Man) - all of who in the 'Heroes Reborn' Avengers-less reality apparently never made the hero turn.

    Although not mentioned in Marvel's description, the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver amalgam Silver Witch is also on the cover. They too originated briefly as villains in the Marvel U.

    "After the Civil War that split the Squadron Supreme in half, Nighthawk formed his own Squadron in Europe," reads Marvel's description. "But not all of Europe is okay with it. Baron Zemo has put together his own team to take them down and the Squadron doesn't stand a chance."

    Namedropping Civil War, arguably Marvel's most successful modern universe-wide event is noteworthy. Apparently, in the 'Heroes Reborn' reality, the Squadron Supreme, who essentially takes the place of the Avengers, had their own civil war. It'll be interesting to see if Marvel adapts Civil War into its own 'Heroes Reborn' special later in the event.
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    That heroes reborn image, alone with the other preview tells me i can skip this entire event. Granted i may be a little crazy but sabretooth on that cover and the solicits tell me this will be the anti hickman when it comes to mutants to a degree of revenge porn. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    That heroes reborn image, alone with the other preview tells me i can skip this entire event. Granted i may be a little crazy but sabretooth on that cover and the solicits tell me this will be the anti hickman when it comes to mutants to a degree of revenge porn. lol
    Seems to be an AU event, so probably can be skipped as it won't have much bearing on the 616 characters & universe.

    Essentially filler in the grand scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Seems to be an AU event, so probably can be skipped as it won't have much bearing on the 616 characters & universe.

    Essentially filler in the grand scheme.
    Not generally how comics work unless everything is filler to you lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Not generally how comics work unless everything is filler to you lol
    If it doesn't tie into the main-verse, has events that don't come up again or main-verse, then yeah filler. In the sense you can read if you want, or skip & miss nothing of value.

    Example, Jobbertooth is still locked up under Krakoa. Unless he's gonna be released, forgiven, pardoned, & have a brand new Heel-Face Turn in 2 months, then this doesn't seem like it'll relate much to 616. lol

    In which case, readers can probably skip comfortably. If anything is missed, it can probably be caught on the wiki pages. Or this forum.
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    Still...not how comics work.
    It doesn't HAVE to "tie into" anything to be a story of worth and value in and of itself. Yes it can be skipped (readers skip individual issues of the main on-goings) but it can be bought and appreciated entirely for the fact that it is separate and removed from in-universe continuity.
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    To be fair the avengers fucking up and somone how releasing sabertooth seems normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    Still...not how comics work.
    It doesn't HAVE to "tie into" anything to be a story of worth and value in and of itself. Yes it can be skipped (readers skip individual issues of the main on-goings) but it can be bought and appreciated entirely for the fact that it is separate and removed from in-universe continuity.
    Eh. To each is own. I still doubt it's gonna matter in the grand scheme of 616. So hard to get too invested & easy to write off as passable / non-vital.

    Time will tell if that ends up being true or false. lol We only have speculation now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Eh. To each is own. I still doubt it's gonna matter in the grand scheme of 616. So hard to get too invested & easy to write off as passable / non-vital.

    Time will tell if that ends up being true or false. lol We only have speculation now.
    These AU events only time to tell if they are important, specially for characters that aren't avengers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    These AU events only time to tell if they are important, specially for characters that aren't avengers
    Lol exactly. .

    So eh. Can be fun for something somewhat new. But if anyone is looking for stories to factor into 616 and move things forward there, this probably ain't it. lol

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    Everyone should skip time-travel and alternate reality stories on principle. Force them to do some other trope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty&Piotr<3 View Post
    Everyone should skip time-travel and alternate reality stories on principle. Force them to do some other trope.
    Working of the main universe characters is a nice thought. lol

    For example, dig Jobbertooth out of the pit and actually FIX his character. Working on fixing the 19 years worth of damage to him could be great instead of focusing on an AU Sabretooth who we aren't gonna be seeing after this one-shot. lol

    Unless he's gonna cross over to 616 and replace that version. lol

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    On positive note, I love the cover. Still surprised it's Lashley.

    This colorist and the costumes seem to compliment his style MUCH better.

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