BATGIRL
BATWOMAN
BLACK CANARY
DOCTOR LIGHT
FIRE
GREEN LANTERN JESSICA CRUZ
HAWKWOMAN
ICE
JESSE QUICK
MERA
STARFIRE
SUPERGIRL
VIXEN
WONDER WOMAN
ZATANNA
Batwoman
Fire
Hawkwoman
Jesse Quick
Mera
Starfire
Supergirl
Well, it's at least a consistent theme! Super-She, She-Bat, She-Lantern, She-Flash, Aqua-She, etc.
I always thought it was funky that the two consistent members of the 'big seven' who didn't have gender specific names, Flash and Green Lantern, of whom there were four and six of, respectively (just on earth, for the GLs), were all dudes, while the people who *did* have 'man' in their names, like Superman, Batman and Aquaman, had various Supergirls, Batgirls, Batwomen, Aquagirls, etc.
That's changed now that we have an Earth-human Green Lantern who is not a dude, but Jessica had to wait in line after Alan, Hal, John, Kyle, Guy and Simon to get a ring, and the only Flashes we've had so far have been boys (Jay, Barry, Wally, Bart). It's just weird that there'd be so many women eager to take up sex-defined names like 'Batwoman' or 'Batgirl', and nobody in the running for the gender-neutral Flash name!
Then again, you could field an entire seven person League of Bat-ladies (2 Batwomen, 3ish Batgirls, Spoiler, Huntress, etc.), so that's probably a bad example.
Good point.
I think the main issue these days is how differently Harley is written in the books she's appearing in. In her solo (and the various spin-offs) she's very much in that "Deadpool" anti-hero grouping; she wants to do good and her heart is in the right place (more or less), her methods are ultra-violent but she's got the right idea. She's put herself at risk many times to help others, including strangers. She's someone I could see the League bringing in, if for no other reason than to keep an eye on her and ensure she doesn't backtrack into raw villainy.
But in Suicide Squad she's much more the psycho, much less stable, and infinitely less trustworthy. Or at least so it seems, I dropped Squad after the first few issues of the current run, and didnt last much beyond the first year of the New52 series.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
We know that. DC does not seem to agree. But maybe they're finally figuring it out. Wonder Woman has turned a huge profit with a much smaller budget, so perhaps the lesson will finally find its way home.
But the larger media stuff rarely seeps down into the comics, and movie success doesn't always translate to comic book success. So if DC were still interested in using a high-profile female for a all-girl JLA, I still think Harley might be a smart choice from the business side of things. Even if Diana is financially capable of keeping a team book afloat on her own merits, it never hurts to have an extra bullet in the gun, you know?
All that said, Im not campaigning for Harley Quinn to be included in the League. Just pointing out that she'd probably help increase sales if they did include her. Which isn't a good enough reason on its own to do it, but it is food for thought.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Well, Lobo and Killer Frost are in the JLA. Everything is possible.
Well, votes have continued to trickle in but it hasn't changed the top 7: Black Canary, Green Lantern Jessica Cruz, Hawkwoman, Mera, Vixen, Wonder Woman & Zatanna.
What has changed is the one with the least votes: Batgirl.
I have a question for those that voted for Jessica Cruz. Is it because you like the character or because you think there should be a Lantern on the team?
Why doesn't anyone care about Fire and Ice anymore? That what makes me upset about all this Killer Frost attention, there's already Ice!
Last edited by El_Gato; 06-30-2017 at 10:02 PM.
Done with DC. Can't handle the constant whiplash! Time to go on a hiatus!
The Caitlin Snow version of Killer Frost was set up to be more sympathetic/nuanced from the beginning (and the TV show has kept the "sympathetic" element with her as well). So her being on the JLA isn't that hard to buy.
You can buy her WANTING to do good, but there's JUST enough doubt about whether or not she'll lose control again to make her something of a wildcard.
Other than the fact that they haven't seen much panel time in years? Im not sure.
I thought what they did with Fire in Checkmate was brilliant, but no one seemed to have an idea for Ice once her League disbanded, unless you count being Guy Gardner's love interest.
When the Frozen movie came out and all the kids were going crazy over it, I thought DC missed an opportunity to raise Ice's profile, but I am really enjoying what they're doing with Frost right now.
But I'd be perfectly happy seeing Fire and Ice back in action. They had a fun dynamic and I think there's a lot that could be done with them.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Wonder Woman
Hawkwoman
Mera
Zatanna
Jesse Quick
Starfire
Black Canary
Fire
Ice
Edit it down to seen and I'll cut Starfire. My second cut would either be Black canary or Jesse Quick. A speedster is needed so I guess i'd cut BC next.
Last edited by Thor2014; 07-01-2017 at 10:54 PM.
I loved the original Icemaiden, from a magical hidden land, and 'Green Fury,' with mystical green fire that she could use to generate heat, cold, illusions or even change her clothes. After their 'update' to Fire and Ice for Justice League International (and then Fire later having even *different* powers because of some meta-gene business and becoming a green Human Torch), I was less of a fan. IMO, what was special about these two characters I first read about in Super-Friends (yes, I am that old) was stripped away by Giffen.
But hey, they've gotten better treatment than Jack O' Lantern or Tasmanian Devil, so there's that.