Age of X Questions ?

[kid_omega_prime]

ok I got some questions about Age of X.

1) is it a seprate universe from 616 ?
2) is Age of X still around like age of apocalypse ?

bonus question: is House of M still around ?

I tried the marvel database on this both but they were inconclusive.

[Juggernaut Punch]

1. Yes. Kinda. Basically, Legion took a chunk of Earth-616 (namely Utopia and the surrounding area) and altered it into another reality. Outside of that of that chunk, there was nothing, just a void. He kept the rest of 616 in a box.

2. No. The Age of X reality was just an altered portion of Earth-616. Legion put everything back to its rightful place, so the Age of X reality no longer exists. This was originally the story for the Age of Apocalypse universe too, but Marvel couldn't resist the temptation of cashing in.

3. House of M is not around. Like Age of X, Wanda took Earth-616 and altered it into another reality. At the end of House of M, she restored Earth-616 and "destroyed" the House of M reality.

[strathcona]

1. Yes. Kinda. Basically, Legion took a chunk of Earth-616 (namely Utopia and the surrounding area) and altered it into another reality. Outside of that of that chunk, there was nothing, just a void. He kept the rest of 616 in a box.

2. No. The Age of X reality was just an altered portion of Earth-616. Legion put everything back to its rightful place, so the Age of X reality no longer exists. This was originally the story for the Age of Apocalypse universe too, but Marvel couldn't resist the temptation of cashing in.

3. House of M is not around. Like Age of X, Wanda took Earth-616 and altered it into another reality. At the end of House of M, she restored Earth-616 and "destroyed" the House of M reality.

Actually, I am pretty sure the House of M reality is still around too... same as Age of Apocalypse. It was supposed to be an alteration of 616... but in doing so, you create a new reality and that reality continues to exist somewhere in the multiverse, even after the 616 is restored. HoM is even listed as Earth 58163. I assume some writer will eventually want to revisit Age of X in the same way... it's considered Earth 11326.

[kid_omega_prime]

Actually, I am pretty sure the House of M reality is still around too... same as Age of Apocalypse. It was supposed to be an alteration of 616... but in doing so, you create a new reality and that reality continues to exist somewhere in the multiverse, even after the 616 is restored. HoM is even listed as Earth 58163. I assume some writer will eventually want to revisit Age of X in the same way... it's considered Earth 11326.

I see. well lets hope they both make a comeback sometime soon.

[Wildfire2099]

Legion also erased all memory of his own existance just before he died, so thta might erase Age of X, too

[numberthirty]

Legion also erased all memory of his own existance just before he died, so thta might erase Age of X, too

Not just that. I'm pretty sure he rewrites reality at the end of Age Of X so nothing but memories of it happening actually exist.

[Kieran_Frost]

I could be wrong, but as far as I understand it...

1) is it a seprate universe from 616 ?

NO. Legion altered the reality of 616, but it was still 616. Similar to if someone used reality altering powers to change a house into a mansion, it's not an alternate world, just an altered one.

2) is Age of X still around like age of apocalypse ?

NO. Age of X was "undone" once X was defeated. Age of Apocalypse was a seperate timeline; where the death of someone in the past led to a separate future (so no longer 616).

bonus question: is House of M still around ?

NO. Again, like with the defeat of X, Wanda put the world "back" (though altered) at the end. But it was always 616.

[Mr-Xoc]

If alternate realities in the MU are created by some event happening in 616 that has several possible outcomes (one outcome being what you read in the comics for the 616 universe and others leading to the many various What If's), then surely it is possible that both HoM and AoX still exist as there would have been many points during these events where things could have occurred differently. There would logically be alternate universes out there that happened exactly the same as 616, but with different endings to both HoM/AoX. It would then be possible to assume that one of the alternate endings to HoM/AoX would result in the realities within those events becoming permanent and things not reverting back to the way it was in 616.

This is of course entirely hypothetical, there hasn't been any evidence to show that those universes are still around and there also hasn't been any evidence to show they aren't around either. Until a writer decides to give some kind of proof either way, no one knows for sure.

[cranger]

If alternate realities in the MU are created by some event happening in 616 that has several possible outcomes (one outcome being what you read in the comics for the 616 universe and others leading to the many various What If's), then surely it is possible that both HoM and AoX still exist as there would have been many points during these events where things could have occurred differently.

Yeah, there would be the possibility of some other reality where things happened differently than the 616 with regards to the AoX and HoM stories. Those would still have been completely different timelines than the AoX and HoM of the 616.

Typically, at least before AoU, the divergent timelines would only be a result of something that was changed due to time travel. So AoA and DoFP were alternate timelines due to time travel. AoX and HoM were just things that happened in and to 616. So those alterations are gone, if some other universe had something similar happen it still is not the same universe.

As for AoA it was never prevented. It was supposedly nuked at the end so no one was left on Earth or whatever but the actual timeline was still there. Maybe in some other story it makes sense, but in Marvel stories the idea that the heroes travel back in time to prevent something is something the reader has to kind of not think about because we know that in the MU nothing can be prevented. At most the person who travels back in time ends up in an alternate timeline.

[Wren]

Age of X and House of M were 'thought up'. Unlike Age of Apocalypse which came about as the result of someone's actions (Xavier's death at a particular point in time), these two "realities" were only ever stories that Wanda or Legion made real.

In that sense we don't know what events would naturally lead to House of M or Age of X. Maybe there ARE no such events. IE the exact circumstances that Wanda/Legion described are impossible to achieve "naturally".

There must be universes out there where Wanda/Legion were never stopped and those realities they built continue. However, those would still be universes where someone has taken control of them and altered them. Age of Apocalypse is just a normal universe.