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    Quote Originally Posted by newparisian View Post
    Have you read the More than Meets the Eye and Lost Light era of Transformers, with Optimus Prime and Robots in Disguise as companions? I had never cared for Transformers as a property before this.
    I can't remember if they are phase 1 or 2, I think MTMtE is phase 2? In which case, unfortunately not
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    Goldie Vance v1-4

    Decent young adult books. Teen detectives. You've seen these characters before. Nothing new or subversive but fun enough. 6/10

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    Almost finished with the 3rd X-Men: Road to Onslaught collection.

    While there are a handful of good issues throughout these 3 volumes, it really has been a chore to get through.

    My stopping point in X-Men had always been AOA. I decided to keep going with my latest read through...and yeah, not really impressed.

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    Started Ms. Marvel OHC Vol 1 (Kamala Kahn -sp?) last night, with Vol. 2 to be right after that.
    I am about 3 issues into the 12 issue collection, and really like it so far.

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    Grayson superspy omnibus, bit of a drag, shouldn’t be surprised I find most superhero stuff fairly boring lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    I can't remember if they are phase 1 or 2, I think MTMtE is phase 2? In which case, unfortunately not
    they are indeed Phase 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    Almost finished with the 3rd X-Men: Road to Onslaught collection.

    While there are a handful of good issues throughout these 3 volumes, it really has been a chore to get through.

    My stopping point in X-Men had always been AOA. I decided to keep going with my latest read through...and yeah, not really impressed.
    After AoA, it goes downhill for the rest of the X-Men 90's. Steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hive View Post
    After AoA, it goes downhill for the rest of the X-Men 90's. Steep.
    False. Lobdell/MAD from UXM 337-350 is gold, Jerry. GOLD!!
    Operation Zero Tolerance leading into Kelly/Seagle is above average (Pacheco art, badass Iceman, Logan vs Marrow), but then the Davis run is fantastic in an "old school but not Claremont old school" kinda way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellboydce View Post
    Grayson superspy omnibus, bit of a drag, shouldn’t be surprised I find most superhero stuff fairly boring lately
    Such a strong run that peters out. I sold my omni specifically because having another team come in to badly resolve the first 75% of the run just left a bad taste in my mouth. Really wish King/Seeley/Janin had finished it

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    Quote Originally Posted by newparisian View Post
    False. Lobdell/MAD from UXM 337-350 is gold, Jerry. GOLD!!
    Operation Zero Tolerance leading into Kelly/Seagle is above average (Pacheco art, badass Iceman, Logan vs Marrow), but then the Davis run is fantastic in an "old school but not Claremont old school" kinda way.
    Zero Tolerance was horrible. I can forgive the tired "group of humans build new generation of sentinels to kill mutants" trope simply because it has always been a big part of the X-Men mythos. But the execution of this specific iteration... horrible.

    I mean, we have a group which sole purpose is to exterminate all mutants - and they manage to capture (most of them a bit too easily) a string of the very most prominent mutants in the world... only to keep them all captive until they manage to escape. Bastion himself had promise, but ultimately fell short and amounted to nothing.

    And none of the new mutants coming out of this era were interesting enough to stick around in a meaningful way: Marrow, Cecilia Reyes, Maggot (worst mutant of the entire decade), Joseph (interesting idea, but horrible payoff)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newparisian View Post
    False. Lobdell/MAD from UXM 337-350 is gold, Jerry. GOLD!!
    Operation Zero Tolerance leading into Kelly/Seagle is above average (Pacheco art, badass Iceman, Logan vs Marrow), but then the Davis run is fantastic in an "old school but not Claremont old school" kinda way.

    I'll second the Davis run, that stuff was pretty good. I also liked his work with Claremont a little later, which a lot of X-fans don't seem to look back upon fondly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hive View Post
    You like Walter Simonsen? Well, to each their own, I guess...

    It's a shame really, as I like the concept of X-Factor v1 - but neither the writers nor artists throughout the run appeal to me. Especially not the Simonsens and Jon Bogdanove.

    Fun trivia info on Louise Simonsen and her flair for characters: she actually wanted to name Cable "Commander X" - but Mr. Pouch Lover himself, Rob Liefeld, insisted on "Cable" (a wise decision, I'd say).
    Haha Commander X would have been terrible. Glad for once that Liefeld got his way

    Actually I like Walter Simonson's art fine. I have more issues with the later JRJR's art (very blocky).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
    Haha Commander X would have been terrible. Glad for once that Liefeld got his way

    Actually I like Walter Simonson's art fine. I have more issues with the later JRJR's art (very blocky).
    We can at least agree that JRJR is worse than Walter.

    I've never been a big fan of JRJR - but his 80's run on X-Men was at least tolerable. I feel his artwork became more like Sal Buscemas later on (who is one of my least favorite artists ever).

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    I started the Man of Steel HC from John Byrne. Good times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    Almost finished with the 3rd X-Men: Road to Onslaught collection.

    While there are a handful of good issues throughout these 3 volumes, it really has been a chore to get through.

    My stopping point in X-Men had always been AOA. I decided to keep going with my latest read through...and yeah, not really impressed.
    In the 90's I absorbed both X-Men and Uncanny X-Men titles like crazy but only to realize later that the 90's X-Men era was mostly junk that I simply gave them away to my LCS and never looked back and not even buying those Tpb's.

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