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    Quote Originally Posted by lodebone View Post
    OK guys looking for some advice over the long weekend. What Omnibus should be next up?

    Doom Patrol by Morrison (also have Invisibles but figured I would do them in order)
    Thor by Simonson
    Uncanny Avengers (just finished first read of Uncanny X Force a few weeks ago)
    New X Men
    Wonder Woman by Simone
    Go directly to uncanny avengers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    Go directly to uncanny avengers.
    I grabbed Uncanny Avengers and just finished it off. Very good although not quite up to Uncanny X Force. The female leads have been outstanding in these stories (Psylocke in UXF) especially Scarlet Witch and Rogue, two of my favorites. But is the rest of this Red Onslaught worth chasing down? I am guessing no?

    Now that I’ve read that whole one I’m back in the same place!

    Thor by Simonson
    Batman Inc by Morrison
    Doom Patrol by Morrison
    Wonder Woman by Simone
    FINISH Fantastic Four by Byrne 2 (halfway through)

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    I would read Batman, Thor, Doom Patrol, Fantastic Four! Actually I would read the Wonder Woman first because I have never read it and the rest would be re-reads.

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    I just finished Wonder Woman by Simone a couple weeks ago and really enjoyed it. I don't think that's a bad option at all.

    AXIS is the conclusion to the Uncanny Avengers story. It's probably Remender's weakest story in the Uncanny X-Force/Avengers run, but it's still pretty decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lodebone View Post
    I grabbed Uncanny Avengers and just finished it off. Very good although not quite up to Uncanny X Force. The female leads have been outstanding in these stories (Psylocke in UXF) especially Scarlet Witch and Rogue, two of my favorites. But is the rest of this Red Onslaught worth chasing down? I am guessing no?

    Now that I’ve read that whole one I’m back in the same place!

    Thor by Simonson
    Batman Inc by Morrison
    Doom Patrol by Morrison
    Wonder Woman by Simone
    FINISH Fantastic Four by Byrne 2 (halfway through)
    I’d finish the Byrne FF. I like that run and remember it being strong right to the end (issue 295 I think)
    “The Scarlet Witch is the only thing that will scare them. It’s the only thing they’ll respect.” - Hope Summers, Avengers vs X-Men #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by your_name_here View Post
    Let me know what you think!

    Hi, so Ex Machina was great overall, but I think that some of the plots towards the end could have been shortened / or replaced with stories to explain what happened during the time jump at the end. The ending felt suddenly rushed, a bit unearned and out of character. Would still definitely recommend this to everyone though.

    *SPOILERS* for Ex Machina

    Especially the way H interacted with his two former closest allies at the end felt strange. What is the supposed takeaway in the relationship with B? Did H have feelings for B (as one of the previous stories suggest where he thinks he will die and says "tell him I loved him") but didn't want to admit it now because that would have been a problem with his campaign for higher office? Or was it because B was clearly drunk and down on his luck and maybe confused? My guess is the former and it would fit with him becoming more ruthless in the course of the book. (Or, fun alternative: he was always this ruthless, but it was revealed more and more during the book).

    As far as other BKV books, I have read the three Saga hardcovers and the two Paper Girls hardcovers that are out so far. I would say that Saga still takes top spot (even though it is unfinished) and Ex Machina comes in second. With Paper Girls I need to see whether he can stick the landing there. Also, while I did enjoy it, I wasn't blown away by it like many others.

    Still have the Y absolutes and the Runaways omnibus on the shelf that I need to read. Any other BKV books worth tracking down?

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    Reading the X-Men by Chris Claremont & Jim Lee Omnibus volume 1 at the moment, about halfway through.

    There are actually not many issues in here drawn by Jim Lee, but when you get to them, you instantly know. I understand now why he became such a star in the day. Marc Silvestri was the main artist at the time and his art was already good but Jim Lee takes it to a different level. Now his style is of course well-known but it must have been super fresh at the time it first came out.

    Of the two X-Men omnis by Claremont & Lee, this one is the less beloved one apparently and I can see why people would think that. The team is scattered all over and the stories focus on their individual woes. However, given Claremont's amazing long-term plotting ability, I trust that he will bring it back together and make it worthwhile at some point. Unfortunately, I think that point will only come in the second omnibus, so I have to be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
    Hi, so Ex Machina was great overall, but I think that some of the plots towards the end could have been shortened / or replaced with stories to explain what happened during the time jump at the end. The ending felt suddenly rushed, a bit unearned and out of character. Would still definitely recommend this to everyone though.

    *SPOILERS* for Ex Machina

    Especially the way H interacted with his two former closest allies at the end felt strange. What is the supposed takeaway in the relationship with B? Did H have feelings for B (as one of the previous stories suggest where he thinks he will die and says "tell him I loved him") but didn't want to admit it now because that would have been a problem with his campaign for higher office? Or was it because B was clearly drunk and down on his luck and maybe confused? My guess is the former and it would fit with him becoming more ruthless in the course of the book. (Or, fun alternative: he was always this ruthless, but it was revealed more and more during the book).

    As far as other BKV books, I have read the three Saga hardcovers and the two Paper Girls hardcovers that are out so far. I would say that Saga still takes top spot (even though it is unfinished) and Ex Machina comes in second. With Paper Girls I need to see whether he can stick the landing there. Also, while I did enjoy it, I wasn't blown away by it like many others.

    Still have the Y absolutes and the Runaways omnibus on the shelf that I need to read. Any other BKV books worth tracking down?
    His Private Eye is great. Available in a nice HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPAR View Post
    His Private Eye is great. Available in a nice HC.
    Ah yes, I have seen the HC. Didn't realise it was by him. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by lodebone View Post
    I grabbed Uncanny Avengers and just finished it off. Very good although not quite up to Uncanny X Force. The female leads have been outstanding in these stories (Psylocke in UXF) especially Scarlet Witch and Rogue, two of my favorites. But is the rest of this Red Onslaught worth chasing down? I am guessing no?

    Now that I’ve read that whole one I’m back in the same place!

    Thor by Simonson
    Batman Inc by Morrison
    Doom Patrol by Morrison
    Wonder Woman by Simone
    FINISH Fantastic Four by Byrne 2 (halfway through)
    I would say:
    Finish FF
    Thor
    Batman
    WW
    DP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
    Reading the X-Men by Chris Claremont & Jim Lee Omnibus volume 1 at the moment, about halfway through.

    There are actually not many issues in here drawn by Jim Lee, but when you get to them, you instantly know. I understand now why he became such a star in the day. Marc Silvestri was the main artist at the time and his art was already good but Jim Lee takes it to a different level. Now his style is of course well-known but it must have been super fresh at the time it first came out.

    Of the two X-Men omnis by Claremont & Lee, this one is the less beloved one apparently and I can see why people would think that. The team is scattered all over and the stories focus on their individual woes. However, given Claremont's amazing long-term plotting ability, I trust that he will bring it back together and make it worthwhile at some point. Unfortunately, I think that point will only come in the second omnibus, so I have to be patient.
    Jim Lee is my favorite artist, Claremont is my favorite writer and X-Men my favorite comic book property... so yeah, that run was basically my all-time favorite comic book era. Volume 2 will have the better parts though.

    As for Marc Silvestri, I was never a huge fan of his work on X-Men. His later work on Wolverine was much better, in my opinion. Really dug him there.

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    I've just started reading Giant Days Volume 1.
    Currently Pulling: Amazing Spider-man, Daredevil, Invisible Kingdom, Farmhand, Gideon Falls, Family Tree, Babyteeth, Skulldigger and Skeleton Boy

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    Currently reading The Boys. Finished with Omnibus Vols 1-4, 5-6 left. I have to say the show is much better. Cut out all the crap kept the few good things while putting in some of their own stuff which was an improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hive View Post
    Jim Lee is my favorite artist, Claremont is my favorite writer and X-Men my favorite comic book property... so yeah, that run was basically my all-time favorite comic book era. Volume 2 will have the better parts though.

    As for Marc Silvestri, I was never a huge fan of his work on X-Men. His later work on Wolverine was much better, in my opinion. Really dug him there.
    Just started on the second Claremont / Lee omnibus and the evolution of the art is amazing. While there seem to be no digital gradients yet, it seems that the coloring took a step forward at the time, introducing several flesh tones to make skin more realistic and using several shades of the same colour to simulate grading better than previously. At the same time, the insanely detailed pencils of Jim Lee and Whilce Portacio are a massive step up from Silvestri and other predecessors.

    Apart from the changes in the coloring and pencils, there seems to be so much more going on on each page. Really remarkable. I understand now better why those guys became superstars.

    Story-wise it's indeed an improvement as the teams are finally back together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
    Just started on the second Claremont / Lee omnibus and the evolution of the art is amazing. While there seem to be no digital gradients yet, it seems that the coloring took a step forward at the time, introducing several flesh tones to make skin more realistic and using several shades of the same colour to simulate grading better than previously. At the same time, the insanely detailed pencils of Jim Lee and Whilce Portacio are a massive step up from Silvestri and other predecessors.

    Apart from the changes in the coloring and pencils, there seems to be so much more going on on each page. Really remarkable. I understand now better why those guys became superstars.

    Story-wise it's indeed an improvement as the teams are finally back together.
    I always felt there was something off with Whilce Portacio's facial expressions and the way he drew "energi attacks". But I agree that he drew lots of details, same as Jim Lee. Guys like them really broke the mold and departed from the 80's (and earlier periods), where both characters and backgrounds were drawn with much less detail.

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