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  • The Throwaway Death of Orpheus

    8 12.12%
  • The Torture and Death of Stephanie Brown

    10 15.15%
  • The Sexualization of the Torture of Stephanie Brown

    11 16.67%
  • The Character Assasination of Leslie Thompkins

    10 15.15%
  • The Bait-and-Switch (Steph being planned to die from the start)

    6 9.09%
  • The Aftermath (The splitting of the Batfam, the victim blaming, etc.)

    4 6.06%
  • Most Characters Acting OOC for the Sake of the Plot

    4 6.06%
  • The General Sexism on Display (This includes Bruce's in-story)

    1 1.52%
  • The Clear Malice this Story was Written with.

    7 10.61%
  • Other

    5 7.58%
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    Default Worst Part of 'War Games'?

    While no story is hated by everyone, War Games(and everything that makes it up) is almost definitely the most hated of BatFamily crossovers. There are many reasons why this storyline is so reviled, and I'm curious what everyone here thinks the single worst aspect is.

    If you vote "Other" on the poll, please say which part of the storyline you thought was the worst.

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    Uh, was there a poll?
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Uh, was there a poll?
    Took some time to put it together. Just added it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    For me personally, it was the way Bruce was written. The Batman I know and love would not treat Steph the way he did.

    Secondly, I don't even really care about Steph, but her fridging pisses me off on general principle.
    Oh, man, those are some hard options. I don't know what I hate most most, but instinctively it's that Steph was planned to be killed from the start, but despite nearly all of the writers (Simone, Horrocks, Grayson, even Willingham) saying, "No, let's not kill her," they kept on with their moronic plan. Plus, the whole story was structured like it could be Steph's redemption, a turning point, but instead they just murdered her without any point except cheap sadness.

    I think Bruce's OOC jerkness to Steph is indeed a huge problem - it's just so unnecessary, and so against the Batman I think is one of the greatest characters ever made.
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    For me personally, it was the way Bruce was written. The Batman I know and love would not treat Steph the way he did.

    Secondly, I don't even really care about Steph, but her fridging pisses me off on general principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    For me personally, it was the way Bruce was written. The Batman I know and love would not treat Steph the way he did.

    Secondly, I don't even really care about Steph, but her fridging pisses me off on general principle.
    I agree. The whole middle section just made you hate Bruce and seemed too much like filler.
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    I didn't like all the stuff with Steph, but I hated what they did to Leslie. At the time, I enjoyed that Catwoman series, where Leslie was a big part of her supporting cast. War Games put an end to that.

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    Didn't like any part of it.

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    The whole damned thing. There's not one thing that I can think of that has merit about this piece of garbage story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenyxx1481 View Post
    I didn't like all the stuff with Steph, but I hated what they did to Leslie. At the time, I enjoyed that Catwoman series, where Leslie was a big part of her supporting cast. War Games put an end to that.
    I haven't read "War Games", nor do I ever really plan to.

    However, I did read the issues from Catwoman that were part of it in a Catwoman tpb collection, and those chapters weren't bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timber Wolf-By-Night View Post
    Out of curiosity, what about it struck you as being racist?
    The accusation that it's racist usually centers around the death of Orpheus, I believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I haven't read "War Games", nor do I ever really plan to.

    However, I did read the issues from Catwoman that were part of it in a Catwoman tpb collection, and those chapters weren't bad.
    The Catwoman chapters did tend to be better. Unsurprising, since Brubaker was one of the stronger writers in the staff at the time.
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