View Poll Results: Who is the second most important character in the Batman universe?

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  • Commissioner Gordon

    26 16.46%
  • The Joker

    14 8.86%
  • Robin

    55 34.81%
  • Alfred

    59 37.34%
  • Other

    4 2.53%
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    Question Most integral supporting character in the mythos

    I was thinking recently of the core concept of Batman, and who is most important to the overall plot dynamic. I came up with the following list, in order:

    1 Commissioner Gordon
    2 The Joker
    3 Robin
    4 Alfred

    1 In my opinion Gordon is what separates Batman from a strict vigilante - Gordon and he collaborate, and that really is a core aspect of Batman. Gordon's semi-corrupt relationship with Bats really sets the tone for Batman stories.

    2 The Joker is the best-known villain in comics, and represents everything Batman isn't - fun, murderous, etc. Without the Joker we wouldn't have the same Batman, at all.

    3 Every other Robin is a stand-in for the kid Dick used to be, so I almost said Dick Grayson here. But considering the fact that he's turned into an underutilized adult figure, at least in regards to Batman, I guess Robin is a more accurate character description. The kid sidekick, the dialogue generator, etc, Robin has a big role in the stories he is in.

    4 Alfred isn't exactly necessary to the Batman universe - he's there, like Robin, largely so Batman can talk to him. But that said, in importance he dwarfs pretty much every character besides those three ^


    Other things are obviously important to Batman, like Joe Chill killing his parents, the Batcave, so on. But I think these are the most important auxiliary characters. The poll is for the top spot, and if you think someone other than those 4 warrants it, vote 'other' and tell the world why.

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    Yeah I agree, Gordon is justice with a gun and batman is justice with a mask and fists.

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    Easy. Batman and ......


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    I really have to give this to Robin.

    Gordon and Alfred come in close.
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    Dick Grayson/Robin

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    I'm gonna vote for Alfred. I think he's underappreciated as the greatest supporting character in superhero comics. If Bruce Wayne is the heart, body and mind of Batman, Alfred is the keeper of his soul. It was Alfred who saved that little boy who's entire world was destroyed on Crime Alley. Its Alfred and his sheer humanity that keeps Bruce honest, his insistence that Bruce occasionally get a good night's sleep, or eat a decent meal, or take a vacation, is not the stupid attempt by a harried servant to impose a predictable schedule on an eccentric employer, or the doddering demands of a old maid. Its Alfred way of reminding him that for all Bruce does, he's still human, and to forget those limitations would be the end of everything. He presents a strong moral gravity over Bruce, temperamental and restrained in his demands and duties. Compare this to Bruce's harst and strenuous attitude who seems to push away all his Robins until they rebel or die in terrible accidents.

    Without Alfred, Wayne Manor would be a ghost house, Bruce alone in his never-ending quest, brooding and going crazy by himself lookin through endless clues and fixing gadgets. Look at Batman Beyond where Alfred's warmth and foundation is gone, as Terry and Bruce kinda orbit around each other warily, neither one able to interpret the other without a neutral third party in a faithful butler.

    Somebody start the Alfred Pennyworth appreciation thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC View Post
    I'm gonna vote for Alfred. I think he's underappreciated as the greatest supporting character in superhero comics. If Bruce Wayne is the heart, body and mind of Batman, Alfred is the keeper of his soul. It was Alfred who saved that little boy who's entire world was destroyed on Crime Alley. Its Alfred and his sheer humanity that keeps Bruce honest, his insistence that Bruce occasionally get a good night's sleep, or eat a decent meal, or take a vacation, is not the stupid attempt by a harried servant to impose a predictable schedule on an eccentric employer, or the doddering demands of a old maid. Its Alfred way of reminding him that for all Bruce does, he's still human, and to forget those limitations would be the end of everything. He presents a strong moral gravity over Bruce, temperamental and restrained in his demands and duties. Compare this to Bruce's harst and strenuous attitude who seems to push away all his Robins until they rebel or die in terrible accidents.

    Without Alfred, Wayne Manor would be a ghost house, Bruce alone in his never-ending quest, brooding and going crazy by himself lookin through endless clues and fixing gadgets. Look at Batman Beyond where Alfred's warmth and foundation is gone, as Terry and Bruce kinda orbit around each other warily, neither one able to interpret the other without a neutral third party in a faithful butler.

    Somebody start the Alfred Pennyworth appreciation thread

    This ^^.

    Yes, we need a Pennyworth appreciation thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthes View Post
    Easy. Batman and ......

    My thoughts exactly.
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