Generations: Why Release It Before Secret Empire Finishes?

[dan12456]

Sadly there is no story answer to this. Marvel just sucks at timing events so the new status quo starts before the event reaches it. Happened with Secret Wars and Civil War II. Now happening with Secret Empire.

[GRIMGLAMFIRE]

maybe they're hoping ill show up at the newsstand to buy a billion fuckin comics

[LOSTie-chan]

If these generations one-shots are canon and important then I wonder how Kamala's team-up with a younger Carol is gonna effect her?

That's gonna be the only one I get so I'm pretty interested in how things are gonna go down.

[LOSTie-chan]

I'm done it's been event after event after event and it's continuing so from now on I will only buy Marvel if it's not tied to company wide event. Heck the I plan on buying the back issues I don't have to the legacy books covers are copying just to support my local comic shop and not Marvel.

Same.
I haven't bought an event since... I think Infinity was the last event I bought? Its been so long lol

Just buying the Ms Marvel Generations book cuz its sounds interesting. And it's a one-shot so I don't need to buy the other Generations books to get whats happening.

[Relugus]

Why release Generations while Secret Empire is ongoing?

Because Alonso and Brevoort are not very smart men, that's why.

[Digifiend]

If these generations one-shots are canon and important then I wonder how Kamala's team-up with a younger Carol is gonna effect her?

That's gonna be the only one I get so I'm pretty interested in how things are gonna go down.

Maybe it'll turn out Kamala inspired Carol's second Ms Marvel costume. The thunderbolt swimsuit (which would mean they based their costumes on each other). I can also imagine shenanigans because Kamala knows Carol's secret identity, and she'll be wondering how the hell she found out (especially since Carol may not even know that she's Ms Marvel, she didn't when she started out, she just blacked out and another personality took over, like Hulk).

[Mike_Murdock]

This feels a lot like the original Secret Wars where there's a separate series and you don't need to know the details right away. I suspect the biggest reason they did it is so they can spread out the ten stories so there isn't sticker shock. But I don't see the need to figure out the why right away since the point is to enjoy the individual story as far as I can tell.

[QBall]

I was lead to believe that the Generations "event" was always a consequence of something happening in the Secret Empire story. If that's the case then it makes perfect sense for the two to be running parallel.

[plasticman101]

Because it is nothing but a cash grab for nostalgia, it will never be mentioned ever again in any other book.

These books are nothing more than one shots/what if type books in a rushed attempt to grab classic readers who have walked away from

Hulk
Ironman
Thor
Captain America
Wolverine
Jean Grey

after the poor treatment from marvel, they're irrelevant books and not worth the $5. posted by the baron

preach on sir ! thank you !

[QBall]

Because it is nothing but a cash grab for nostalgia, it will never be mentioned ever again in any other book.

These books are nothing more than one shots/what if type books in a rushed attempt to grab classic readers who have walked away from

Hulk
Ironman
Thor
Captain America
Wolverine
Jean Grey

after the poor treatment from marvel, they're irrelevant books and not worth the $5.

Responding to the bolded parts, none of those criteria you stated have any effect on a single issue being in and of itself an enjoyable read.

Things happen all the time in books that are never mentioned again. That's simply a by-product of the medium.
What if, so what? There's been plenty of what if stories in the Marvel universe that are fine reads.
Irrelevant maybe if you adhere to the "everything must be in continuity" doctrine, but that doesn't disqualify it from being a good stand-alone story.

[Prof. Warren]

This feels a lot like the original Secret Wars where there's a separate series and you don't need to know the details right away. I suspect the biggest reason they did it is so they can spread out the ten stories so there isn't sticker shock. But I don't see the need to figure out the why right away since the point is to enjoy the individual story as far as I can tell.

Yes. It seems very much like you could read these without following SE.

While an event in SE facilitates these one-shots, they seem designed to function as self-contained stories without need of too much explanation.

If you have an interest in a specific character, you can read it without reading the other Generation issues or SE itself.

Because it is nothing but a cash grab for nostalgia, it will never be mentioned ever again in any other book.

These books are nothing more than one shots/what if type books in a rushed attempt to grab classic readers who have walked away from

Hulk
Ironman
Thor
Captain America
Wolverine
Jean Grey

after the poor treatment from marvel, they're irrelevant books and not worth the $5. posted by the baron

preach on sir ! thank you !

One, you really need to figure out the "Reply With Quote" button.

Two, I find the anger from some fans amusing in that they're mad that the classic characters they like have been out of the spotlight but yet any attempt to bring them back is also met with anger. It's like they have no ability to respond to anything with anything other than resentment and hostility. I assume that many fans want the classic heroes back but when Marvel actually starts heading in that direction, somehow it only makes these people more angry.

Maybe they're just mad that they aren't going to have the same things to complain about anymore.

Or maybe they're just mad that Marvel won't be "punished" for their actions. I feel that part of what incensed some fans about Superior Spider-Man is that Marvel "got away with it." Angry fans were sure that Marvel would feel the wrath of readers for daring to run with that story and that they had ruined Spider-Man forever. But when it not only proved very successful but when Peter eventually returned none the worse for wear, I think it just bugged some people all the more - that their anger proved to be ridiculous in the long run.

Similarly with Legacy, I think fans can sense that when the classic heroes come back and co-exist with their Legacy counterparts, all that fuming anger about heroes being replaced is going to seem like much ado about nothing.

[LOSTie-chan]

Maybe it'll turn out Kamala inspired Carol's second Ms Marvel costume. The thunderbolt swimsuit (which would mean they based their costumes on each other). I can also imagine shenanigans because Kamala knows Carol's secret identity, and she'll be wondering how the hell she found out (especially since Carol may not even know that she's Ms Marvel, she didn't when she started out, she just blacked out and another personality took over, like Hulk).

OMG I would love that! It'd be so timey wimey.

[kilderkin]

Because it is nothing but a cash grab for nostalgia, it will never be mentioned ever again in any other book.

These books are nothing more than one shots/what if type books in a rushed attempt to grab classic readers who have walked away from

Hulk
Ironman
Thor
Captain America
Wolverine
Jean Grey

after the poor treatment from marvel, they're irrelevant books and not worth the $5.

What you said for me is only backed up by the tail off sales effect comments

But then they are a business

But I agree, over priced for the page count, I could get a trade for 3 of these

But then I think marvel are overpriced generally

[nnelg]

We had the first of these Generations labelled issues come out this week, and I am curious why this series was being prematurely exposed before the end of SE. Is it because this series generations, happens during SE? This Vanishing Point mentioned in the front of the book, seems to be something that happens to a lot of people, either at SE issue #7, or sometime later.

My question is, why do it now, because it is showing an aspect of the classic super heroes, juxtaposed against the younger legacy characters for a reason. Seeing as this series is happening 3 weeks before SE ends, I'm am led to believe the effects of these encounters, in generations, impacts on the end result of SE. If this Hulk issue is any indictation, we can surmise that whatever happens here, has some overall significants to classic heroes status quo.

We have been seeing a long list of classic heroes in SE profess how wrong they were as super heroes, about 9 of them so far, so if they still feel this way at the end of SE, are we getting some insight into the classic heroes regrets, somehow positioning the younger legacy's in a position to benifit them from the classics experience?

I'm intrigued how Generations figures into the status quo of the ANAD after SE. It seems to be a call of conscience to the classic heroes, as important details are revealed about the motivation of the classic heroes as a sort of justification of their themselves?

Money. Plus I think this is to test the fan base. If the books sell then those characters might get a title. Most of the titles will probably stink. But I am buying the titles with the characters I want to have a book.

[WaxHawk]

I'm viewing these things as essentially themed annuals for the legacy characters. I think the link to Secret Empire is pretty tenuous and not really important

The basic structure of Hulk: Generations will pretty much be repeated through the other titles. The legacy character goes back in time/vanishing point (it doesn't really matter which) helps the OG with a problem, learns something about themselves and vanishes back to where they were.

If you are picking these up because you are a fan of the OG - you'll get to see you're fave smash something or rip something with claws or pull off an amazing trick with an arrow - and the plot will be pretty inconsequential to that character.

If you are picking these up because you are a fan of the legacy - you'll get the above plus a little bit of character stuff and maybe something that can be picked up on in an ongoing (I think there might something in the Thor one).