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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside_85 View Post
    Like coming back to life again, since I seem to remember Shiera being the most noteworthy casualty of the weird parameters the White Light set up as to decide who lived and who died?
    Yup, which is presumably why she's Kendra again, rather than Shiera

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored at 3:00AM View Post
    Yup, which is presumably why she's Kendra again, rather than Shiera
    Btw, wasn't the blond hawkwoman from the early New 52 that was after Carter Shiera or was she someone else? (Really is annoying we have 2 or 3 different female hawks and only one guy they all gravitate around like this... like you'd have thought the Kendra's Sheira's and Shayera's would have met at some point, but they all seem to play the same part as if the others dont exist.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty3w View Post
    It would break some of Morrison's central metaphors if Hyper Adapter wasn't the bat smashed through the window, or doesn't really serve Darkseid.

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    The HA wasn't the bat who smashed through the window, though. The opening to Batman: The Return makes it clear that it's just an old bat who got into a fight with a bunch of other bats. The whole Millerian "old bastard" narration is directed at The Bat, to give it some proper nounage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored at 3:00AM View Post
    Snyder said in an interview that this is the same Kendra from Pre-Flashpoint. He said a lot has happened to her off-screen since her resurrection as Shiera during Brightest Day.
    Wait...so all the stuff with Kendra and Carter Post-Crisis is still basically canon? Should the League actually know who she is ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Outside_85 View Post
    Btw, wasn't the blond hawkwoman from the early New 52 that was after Carter Shiera or was she someone else? (Really is annoying we have 2 or 3 different female hawks and only one guy they all gravitate around like this... like you'd have thought the Kendra's Sheira's and Shayera's would have met at some point, but they all seem to play the same part as if the others dont exist.)
    I know Kendra and Post-Crisis/Hawkworld Shayera met during the Johns Hawkman run, and I think she met Chay-Ara in JSA.

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    After reading this, I only have one question:

    What the heck was that!?!?!?
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    With the hawks, if I want a simple clarification on origins is it:

    all katars- Thanagar
    all carters- Egypt

    All Shieras and Kendras-Egypt
    All Shayeras- Thanagar

    Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red obin View Post
    With the hawks, if I want a simple clarification on origins is it:

    all katars- Thanagar
    all carters- Egypt

    All Shieras and Kendras-Egypt
    All Shayeras- Thanagar

    Right?
    Basically, yeah.

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    DC can never get the Hawks (or Donna Troy) straightened out: their continuity has been a basket case since COIE. It's not that DC hasn't earnestly tried to fix them, but somehow, the fixes always seem to aggravate the existing problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Alien View Post
    DC can never get the Hawks (or Donna Troy) straightened out: their continuity has been a basket case since COIE. It's not that DC hasn't earnestly tried to fix them, but somehow, the fixes always seem to aggravate the existing problems.

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    Curious: Hypothetical Question: What if DC came up with a rule that starting (whatever date), they determine one origin story per character, no one can change it, and if something comes up in the future that contradicts the story they have to work with it instead of around it?

    Like I wrote, hypothetical question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegant Dreamer View Post
    Curious: Hypothetical Question: What if DC came up with a rule that starting (whatever date), they determine one origin story per character, no one can change it, and if something comes up in the future that contradicts the story they have to work with it instead of around it?

    Like I wrote, hypothetical question.
    Good idea, with one caveat: if telling another origin is necessary for telling that story, then the story must be set in a separate continuity from the main, month-to-month ongoing continuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Alien View Post
    Good idea, with one caveat: if telling another origin is necessary for telling that story, then the story must be set in a separate continuity from the main, month-to-month ongoing continuity.

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    Thank you. Good caveat.

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    So does this mean the hyper adapter is still out to get Batman?

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    Interlocking cover for the "Bats out of Hell" tie-ins for Metal:



    And the cover for Hawkman: Found:



    HAWKMAN: FOUND #1

    Written by JEFF LEMIRE
    Art by BRYAN HITCH and KEVIN NOWLAN
    Cover by BRYAN HITCH
    Variant cover by JIM LEE and SCOTT WILLIAMS
    One of DC’S greatest heroes is missing! No one has seen or heard from Carter Hall—a.k.a. Hawkman—in years. Reincarnated repeatedly since the dawn of humanity, Hawkman has spent his many lives uncovering history’s most fantastic mysteries, and now he has become one himself! Take a journey into the one of the darkest corners of the DC Universe as a mysterious man tries to piece together what happened to Hawkman, and how it all connects to the events of DARK NIGHTS: METAL!
    On sale DECEMBER 20 • 32 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Interlocking cover for the "Bats out of Hell" tie-ins for Metal:



    And the cover for Hawkman: Found:



    HAWKMAN: FOUND #1

    Written by JEFF LEMIRE
    Art by BRYAN HITCH and KEVIN NOWLAN
    Cover by BRYAN HITCH
    Variant cover by JIM LEE and SCOTT WILLIAMS
    One of DC’S greatest heroes is missing! No one has seen or heard from Carter Hall—a.k.a. Hawkman—in years. Reincarnated repeatedly since the dawn of humanity, Hawkman has spent his many lives uncovering history’s most fantastic mysteries, and now he has become one himself! Take a journey into the one of the darkest corners of the DC Universe as a mysterious man tries to piece together what happened to Hawkman, and how it all connects to the events of DARK NIGHTS: METAL!
    On sale DECEMBER 20 • 32 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T+

    Those look flipping amazing!!!! Holy crap!

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    I am looking forward to Batman The Merciless. He looks badass!

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