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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    Not a bad look. But I'm still waiting for the classic look to come back.

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    I think it's fine or appropriate for the kind of stories Justice League Dark are telling but I'd really rather it not be her go-to costume. It's too subdued for Zatanna.

    The classic looks is like Black Canary's fishnets. It's never gone for good.

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    I'm of two minds regarding the classic look. On one hand, it's a classic white tie with entertainer accents, so there is a lot of out-of-comics history and symbolism to it. On the other, it is too easily devolved into a Playboy Bunny suit, as in the example that WallyWestFlash posted in 570.

    Key is that the bowtie should never be worn with a corset: it requires a shirt and a vest (and the vest should not be cut too low, it should go over her bosom, not under it). I also think her bathing suit bottom too often gets cut too high and looks tacky. Elegant shorts or a miniskirt would go better with the fishnet stockings.

    Darwyn Cooke used Audrey Hepbern as the style guide for Catwoman/Selina Kyle. I think Marlene Dietrich could be a good model for Zatanna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjn View Post
    I'm of two minds regarding the classic look. On one hand, it's a classic white tie with entertainer accents, so there is a lot of out-of-comics history and symbolism to it. On the other, it is too easily devolved into a Playboy Bunny suit, as in the example that WallyWestFlash posted in 570.

    Key is that the bowtie should never be worn with a corset: it requires a shirt and a vest (and the vest should not be cut too low, it should go over her bosom, not under it). I also think her bathing suit bottom too often gets cut too high and looks tacky. Elegant shorts or a miniskirt would go better with the fishnet stockings.

    Darwyn Cooke used Audrey Hepbern as the style guide for Catwoman/Selina Kyle. I think Marlene Dietrich could be a good model for Zatanna.
    Speaking of Cooke:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Speaking of Cooke:


    Not bad actually. I know this is heresy but I don't really care for Cooke's art.

    It works for those distinctly 60's era stories but that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    Not bad actually. I know this is heresy but I don't really care for Cooke's art.

    It works for those distinctly 60's era stories but that's about it.
    Heresy! I love it a lot. But different tastes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Heresy! I love it a lot. But different tastes!
    Lol. I know. A very unpopular opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    Lol. I know. A very unpopular opinion.
    You're killing me, bud!

    But I know what you mean. I don't particularly care for Jim Lee's pencils most of the time.

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    I've always wondered what did everyone think Zatanna's more Gothic look when the new 52 first started?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    You're killing me, bud!

    But I know what you mean. I don't particularly care for Jim Lee's pencils most of the time.
    (I am the same on Lee. And Tony Daniel and David Finch.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSupernaut View Post
    I've always wondered what did everyone think Zatanna's more Gothic look when the new 52 first started?
    Post a pic and we'll react!
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    (I am the same on Lee. And Tony Daniel and David Finch.)
    I'll co-sign those as well. None of them are terrible, but none of those names are draws for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    I'll co-sign those as well. None of them are terrible, but none of those names are draws for me.
    Yeah, it's not like I'm "Ugh" when I see them, more just "meh."

    I do love Alvaro Martinez, Joe Quinones, Stephane Roux, and several others who have drawn amazing Zatannas, though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Yeah, it's not like I'm "Ugh" when I see them, more just "meh."

    I do love Alvaro Martinez, Joe Quinones, Stephane Roux, and several others who have drawn amazing Zatannas, though!
    I'm a broken record about this guy's work, but I'd love a Zatanna story drawn by Evan "Doc" Shaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    I'm a broken record about this guy's work, but I'd love a Zatanna story drawn by Evan "Doc" Shaner.

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    Oh, Nice! I would be really interested too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Post a pic and we'll react!
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