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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    Good points. I got ya.
    No problem, and I can certainly understand if someone doesn't want to read about their favourite character forced off-balance. My impression is that Tynion does so not to be edgy for edginess sake, but because it serves his story and gives him room for examining the character interactions.

    There is also the fact that this is a team book, with primarily two co-leads right now. That almost always makes the characters a little less nuanced in their personality. But I have the impression that Tynion knows he is showing both Diana and Zatanna outside of their normal behaviour, and does so deliberately to further his story and to make them grow in appreciation of each other.

    But in the end, it all comes down to execution and personal taste.

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    490eecbfd8196e986ea4eed5fdfb226a--comic-babes-zatanna.jpg

    This new 52 suit wasn't too bad looking back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
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    This new 52 suit wasn't too bad looking back.
    If that's not Benes, it's the most Benes looking non-Benes I've ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    If that's not Benes, it's the most Benes looking non-Benes I've ever seen.
    Lol!!! Yea you can tell it's him by his shading.

    He really knows how to draw women. I think he's a great artist in general and would be thrilled if they put him as a regular on a comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    Lol!!! Yea you can tell it's him by his shading.

    He really knows how to draw women. I think he's a great artist in general and would be thrilled if they put him as a regular on a comic.
    I really liked him on Deathstroke recently, but I think he's not able to do a monthly comic anymore (health or something). I hope they give him a miniseries or OGN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    I really liked him on Deathstroke recently, but I think he's not able to do a monthly comic anymore (health or something). I hope they give him a miniseries or OGN.
    Oh man. That sucks. Hope he feels better.

    I liked his Superman fill in issues last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
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    This new 52 suit wasn't too bad looking back.
    It was a better alternative to the JLD costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It was a better alternative to the JLD costume.
    I don't love JLD, especially Zatanna not being able to do magic (yes, I know it's for plot, but it destroys the fun of her character), but I don't see how this is better than Martinez's design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    I don't love JLD, especially Zatanna not being able to do magic (yes, I know it's for plot, but it destroys the fun of her character), but I don't see how this is better than Martinez's design.
    I think because it feels more flashy, colorful, and hearkens to her traditional look more then the JLD look did (although I'm not sure if we're talking about the same JLD outfit?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think because it feels more flashy, colorful, and hearkens to her traditional look more then the JLD look did (although I'm not sure if we're talking about the same JLD outfit?).
    (I'm talking about the current JLD?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    (I'm talking about the current JLD?)
    (I was talking about the New 52 one ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    (I was talking about the New 52 one ).
    I call that the biker coustume. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    I don't love JLD, especially Zatanna not being able to do magic (yes, I know it's for plot, but it destroys the fun of her character), but I don't see how this is better than Martinez's design.
    It is frustrating but hopefully after they defeat this channel we''ll be able to see Zatanna let loose and do her thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash View Post
    It is frustrating but hopefully after they defeat this channel we''ll be able to see Zatanna let loose and do her thing.
    I very much hope so!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    (I was talking about the New 52 one ).
    Ah. Well, the n52 was pretty bad for new character designs, in my opinion. At least the first couple of years.
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    I hope so too, Zatanna being just an exposition bot is getting old

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