The Unofficial DC Rebirth Timeline 3.0

[BatmanJones]

As for what I think the Post-Doomsday Clock DCU's history will be like? The fully illustrated Google Doc has been freshly updated with new pics and details. Enjoy!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Very cool and enjoyable! Love the pics sprinkled throughout! Love the new "History of the DCU!" I do however hope that the JSA lands on its own earth and is not clandestine in their operations. I think that's it's still an open question as to whether they'll be on "prime Earth" or on a sort of Earth-Two as they were from when Barry and Jay first met until the erasure of the multiverse during CoIE which crammed everyone onto the same earth.

The JLA/JSA team-ups were much more fun when they hailed from different earths. And the JSA never needed to be undercover in their operations (and never were) when they had their own earth.

[Bigmanbud]

Can anyone tell me how and when Guy Gardner went from Red to Green Lantern again?

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Can anyone tell me how and when Guy Gardner went from Red to Green Lantern again?

It happened during The Lost Army miniseries, which featured John, Guy and the alien GLs marooned in, I think, was the past with a young Krona. I didn't read it, but I skimmed through some issues in the comic shop so I am clearly an expert

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Very cool and enjoyable! Love the pics sprinkled throughout! Love the new "History of the DCU!" I do however hope that the JSA lands on its own earth and is not clandestine in their operations. I think that's it's still an open question as to whether they'll be on "prime Earth" or on a sort of Earth-Two as they were from when Barry and Jay first met until the erasure of the multiverse during CoIE which crammed everyone onto the same earth.

The JLA/JSA team-ups were much more fun when they hailed from different earths. And the JSA never needed to be undercover in their operations (and never were) when they had their own earth.

It is possible Johns may split the difference and make the JSA native to Earth-0, but migrated to Earth-2 following their retirement due to Johnny Thunder's screw-up. It allows the JSA and JLA's past interactions to still make sense, but also allows them to currently live on the primary Earth, where they've been since Crisis.

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By the way, I am about to put the finishing touches on the Unofficial DC Rebirth Timeline Ver. 3.1.

This newest version will essentially stick to what the comics have established so far, with far less guessing and theorizing on my part I think myself and others may have been a little over-eager about DC's game plan for Rebirth, so this will try to be a tad more pragmatic about what DC is actually doing with their history as opposed to what many of us hope they are doing. I know I certainly started this timeline with more rose-colored glasses than perhaps I should have in retrospect.

Does anybody have any suggestions on things I could improve or clarify before I post the new thread? I may not necessarily agree with your feedback, but I will certainly listen to any ideas you have and try to use any of them that work with what I'm trying to accomplish

[Soubhagya]

Did Morrison''s JLA happen? Did DC One Million take place? Sometime back i saw that. Now it is not there. The OP is the timeline isn't it?

Edit: That document attached is the timeline! It looks fantastic. It is not just a record but a good read. If you could add an appendix it might be a good idea. Where the same things are written in point wise manner as bullet points. Your timeline is a fantastic read. Maybe some would just want to look for something specific. DC One Million did not happen then?

[Aahz]

Does anybody have any suggestions on things I could improve or clarify before I post the new thread? I may not necessarily agree with your feedback, but I will certainly listen to any ideas you have and try to use any of them that work with what I'm trying to accomplish

It would be great if you would put references to the respective comic issues in your document.

[James Hunter]

Metal #3 pretty much confirmed that some form of the original Crisis on Infinite Earths took place, although presumably without Barry dying this time

So, the italics on the Crisis come off, and the Shadowpact also got recanonized.

You say CRISIS happened "presumably without Barry dying" but that's by no means certain, in an early issue of THE FLASH (when he lost Meena to the speed force) Barry seems to remember dying even though he knows its impossible..

Cheers.

James.

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It would be great if you would put references to the respective comic issues in your document.

That's a good idea. As long as people can help me out with some issue numbers, that's certainly doable.

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Did Morrison''s JLA happen? Did DC One Million take place? Sometime back i saw that. Now it is not there. The OP is the timeline isn't it?

Edit: That document attached is the timeline! It looks fantastic. It is not just a record but a good read. If you could add an appendix it might be a good idea. Where the same things are written in point wise manner as bullet points. Your timeline is a fantastic read. Maybe some would just want to look for something specific. DC One Million did not happen then?

The climax of Morrison's JLA, Maggedon, has absolutely been referenced and I think Morrison also dropped a few bits about DC One Million in his Action Comics run, so I think it's pretty likely that it likely did take place, but I haven't seen anything definitive. Superman's history is vague enough at this point, you can certainly fit it in there if you want.

The bare-bones Rebirth timeline is the original post on the first page, which sticks to only what the comics have shown so far. The Google Doc is a more theoretical guess about what DCU history will look like once the dust of Doomsday Clock has settled.

[Soubhagya]

The climax of Morrison's JLA, Maggedon, has absolutely been referenced and I think Morrison also dropped a few bits about DC One Million in his Action Comics run, so I think it's pretty likely that it likely did take place, but I haven't seen anything definitive. Superman's history is vague enough at this point, you can certainly fit it in there if you want.

The bare-bones Rebirth timeline is the original post on the first page, which sticks to only what the comics have shown so far. The Google Doc is a more theoretical guess about what DCU history will look like once the dust of Doomsday Clock has settled.

Ok i get it. The document is guesswork for now. The op is more concrete. Thank you for clarifying this. And thanks for giving your views on Superman.I can fit in One Million and JLA run. I am in the middle of JLA run and have finished DC One Million. They are both awesome. It would be a shame to know that those have been erased. One Million in particular is my absolute favorite. Let us see what happens after Doomsday Clock.

[DamianBane]

Recent comics like Metal have been adding old characters back pretty fast, so it's time for another update to DC's ever-convoluted and still fractured continuity. Here's the basic shape of it as it stands these days. Feel free to point out any corrections or additions in the comments

This Google Doc has the in-depth version, all with color pictures and lots more detail: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

For those of you who just want the stripped-down basics, here it is:

Recent retcons are in bold

Events that have been hinted at, but not yet re-established are in italics.

The Justice Society of America formed and operated as a covert team of costumed Mystery Men during World War II, but disappeared following the Communist Witch Hunts of 1951. Johnny Thunder's Thunderbolt erased all memory of their existence.

WW2 flying aces, The Blackhawks, established their headquarters on Blackhawk Island. Years later, survivors of a nearly-fatal plane crash banded together as The Challengers of the Unknown. Inventor Doc Magnus first constructed the robotic Metal Men.Working with each of them, Hawkman & Hawkgirl began investigating the origins of Nth Metal.

Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman first appeared several years ago, inspiring the modern age of the Super-Hero, which culminated in the formation of the original Justice League with The Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and, their youngest member, the teen Cyborg, whose body was merged with a Mother Box during Darkseid's invasion of Earth. Martian Manhunter, Hawkman & Hawkgirl, The Atom, Black Canary, Zatanna and others also joined the expanding Justice League. Green Arrow worked with the League on several occasions, but was never offered membership due to his abrasive personality.

Shortly afterwards, Robin, Kid Flash, Speedy, Aqualad & Wonder Girl formed the original Teen Titans. Other young heroes including Hawk & Dove and Batgirl also began their adventures.

Bizarre new heroes like Metamorpho, Deadman, Animal Man and the Doom Patrol first appeared. Archaeologist Adam Strange was first transported to the planet Rann by a Zeta Beam. Blue Beetle, The Question, Nightshade and Peacemaker debuted.

Clark & Lois fell in love, Catwoman first matched wits with Batman, Mera met Aquaman after he was crowned king of Atlantis, Carol became Star Sapphire, and Sinestro forged his original yellow ring. T.O. Morrow invented his Red Tornado android.

When Hal Jordan & Ollie Queen took their roadtrip across America, Queen's sidekick, Roy Harper, was exposed as a heroin addict, and John Stewart joined the GLCorps. Batman met Ra's Al Ghul & his daughter Talia, who soon conceived their son Damian. The New Gods of Apokolips and New Genesis brought their war with each other to Earth.

Black Lightning & Firestorm debuted, Travis Morgan became lost in Skartaris, and Alec Holland was transformed into Swamp Thing, who eventually met John Constantine.

Not long after the Teen Titans first encounter with the mercenary Slade Wilson, Deathstroke, Jason Todd debuted as Robin when Dick Grayson left his days as the Boy Wonder behind to become Nightwing, who had fallen in love with an exiled alien princess named Starfire.

While Batman quit the League to form the Outsiders, Hal Jordan was exiled from Earth, prompting John Stewart to take his place the Justice League.

During their battle with Mr.Twister, Dove was killed and Lilith erased the world's memory of the Teen Titans' adventures. Furthermore, Wally West was trapped in the Speed Force by Abra Kadabra.

Following the Crisis begun by the Anti-Monitor, a new Justice League was created with Batman, J'Onn, Black Canary, new Green Lantern Guy Gardner, Mr.Miracle, and others. This team was soon manipulated by Checkmate agent Maxwell Lord into becoming Justice League International with an expanded membership including Booster Gold, Rocket Red, Fire & Ice.

An uneasy alliance between Highfather & Darkseid banded together a group of Earth's heroes with Orion, Lightray and Forager to defeat a dark entity seemingly given life by the Anti-Life Equation, resulting in the destruction of the entire planet Xanshi. The alien Dominators gathered an Alien Alliance of Khunds, Durlans and Daxamites to plunder Earth's metahuman population. During the Invasion, a gene bomb was detonated over Earth, triggering and mutating the latent powers of hundreds of metahumans.

Jason Todd was murdered, Batgirl was crippled & Harley Quinn was seduced by the Joker. With the grieving Batman growing increasingly unstable, Tim Drake chose to become the third Robin. Batman's back was broken by Bane. Barbara Gordon became Oracle and formed the Birds of Prey with Black Canary.

After Superman died fighting Doomsday, armored Steel and the Cyborg Superman first appeared. This culminated in the return of Superman and the destruction of Coast City, which led to Sinestro's corruption of Hal Jordan with Parallax, the destruction of the GLCorps and Kyle Rayner's debut as Green Lantern, who soon joined the reformed JLA to thwart a White Martian invasion, and the attack of Maggedon. During this period, Aquaman temporarily lost his hand and replaced it with a harpoon.

Soon after Lois & Clark were married, Superman rallied together Earth's heroes against the invasion of Imperiex. Meanwhile, Lois had become pregnant and gave birth to their son, Jonathan Samuel Kent, who went into hiding with his parents in California when Lois’s investigation into Intergang threatened their lives. During this period, Superman mostly worked clandestinely at night.

Wonder Woman relocated to Gateway City. Revived by the Lazarus Pit, Jason Todd returned as the Red Hood, Jamie Reyes became Blue Beetle, Kendra Saunders became the newest reincarnation of Hawkgirl, collection of magical heroes formed the Shadowpact, and Kate Kane debuted as the new Batwoman.

After his death reigniting the Sun and his return as the ghostly Spectre, Hal Jordan was resurrected when Kyle Rayner uncovered the schemes of Sinestro, who soon formed his own Corps. During the Final Crisis, Darkseid seemingly killed Batman by sending him back in time, prompting Dick Grayson to train Damian Wayne as the new Batman & Robin while Tim Drake searched for Bruce Wayne as Red Robin.

The Blackest Night brought back the dead and united the seven Corps of ring-bearers, Bruce Wayne returned and established Batman Incorporated around the world, Barry Allen accidentally created Flashpoint by traveling back in time to prevent his mother's murder, and Zatanna & Constantine formed Justice League Dark to combat magical threats.

Supergirl arrived on Earth, Batgirl recovered from her spinal injuries, and Batman faced the Court of Owls. After the Crime Syndicate of Earth-3 invaded, the Anti-Monitor and Darkseid waged a war against each other on Earth. Wally West returned with knowledge that history is being manipulated by outside forces, which was also discovered by The Atom during his explorations of the Microverse. Wonder Woman learned the Paradise Island she had returned to in the past was an illusion to keep Ares imprisoned from Man's World.

Kendra Sanders returned as the new Lady Blackhawk to warn Batman about his investigations into Nth Metal, which unleashed an army of evil Batman from the Dark Multiverse. The mysterious Mr. Oz, who had secretly kidnapped Tim Drake, Mr. Mxy, and others, revealed himself to Superman as Jor-El. Wonder Woman first met her twin brother, Jason.

And there you have it. I'm sure future stories will require some further tweaks here and there, but this seems to be the general shape of DC history right now.

Thanks for this!

[Embryonic Superman]

Did Morrison''s JLA happen? Did DC One Million take place? Sometime back i saw that. Now it is not there. The OP is the timeline isn't it?

Even long before the Rebirth stuff, back in the first year of the New 52, the JLA run would be subtly referenced. I remember the first issue of the New 52 Batman Incorporated made a specific reference to JLA #1, but I think that was just Morrison giving the finger to the New 52 concept, as he was still in his years-long Batman epic where the entirety of the history was supposed to count.

More recently, before Pre-Flashpoint Superman merged timelines with New 52 Superman, Pre-FP Supes was talking with the Justice League about his old "Earth" and referred to his time with the "JLA", as if those stories never happened to Bruce, Diana, etc. Of course, all bets are off after Superman Reborn.

[Green Goblin of Sector 2814]

Wait, wat…if Morrison’s JLA has been referenced, then do we absolutely know that Ollie was never a part of the League? Remember, Connor Hawke was a JLAer during Morrison’s run. Plus, we know that the League’s history is up in the air because of that splash page during the Button crossover showing all of the old League artifacts from their past membership, which absolutely doesn’t line up with the New 52 idea of it only ever being those 7 members. So, is any of it Ollie’s?

I’m also wondering if the original Dixon run on Nightwing from the 90s where Dick first goes to Blüdhaven is also canon again. It’s one of the things Superman remembered before being reintegrated back into the timeline and I did see in a somewhat recent issue of Nightwing where he phrases moving to Blüdhaven as “going back to Blüdhaven.”

[TruthAndJustice]

Wait, wat…if Morrison’s JLA has been referenced, then do we absolutely know that Ollie was never a part of the League? Remember, Connor Hawke was a JLAer during Morrison’s run. Plus, we know that the League’s history is up in the air because of that splash page during the Button crossover showing all of the old League artifacts from their past membership, which absolutely doesn’t line up with the New 52 idea of it only ever being those 7 members. So, is any of it Ollie’s?

I’m also wondering if the original Dixon run on Nightwing from the 90s where Dick first goes to Blüdhaven is also canon again. It’s one of the things Superman remembered before being reintegrated back into the timeline and I did see in a somewhat recent issue of Nightwing where he phrases moving to Blüdhaven as “going back to Blüdhaven.”

The writers are currently being vague about whether or not Ollie was ever a member of the original League (though all the old JL or JLA members seem to know him fairly well). Who knows if Connor Hawke will ever be remembered. I suspect nobody remembers what the "real" origin of the League was. I suspect it'll eventually be revealed that what Batman and Flash (Barry) saw in "The Button" is, in fact, "real" (Justice League of America #9 from 1962[?]) and the 2011 origin was the result of Dr. Manhattan/Pandora/whomever making everyone forget their pasts.

I'm betting the original Dixon run on Nightwing is indeed canonical again.