All purpose news and politics thread part VI: This Is Not The Time For Posing

[SuperiorIronman]

Just voted.

Went with the family and of course they voted for Trump because they're fucking idiots. Hilariously they then made everything wrong with this country about Hillary Clinton (she isn't even on the fucking vote) and Joe Biden's sister. Mind you none of them knew who they had been and started spouting a bunch of BS and I found it all strange, so with a quick Google search I know they didn't do any homework on her because when I asked who they'd been talking about the name they gave was for a person who doesn't exist. Like how desperate are you that you need to reiterate talking points from four years ago and **** on someone who isn't real? Like Joe has a sister but why wouldn't you talk **** on his actual sibling?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

If Biden does win and polls are correct this time (which I hope) , the Trump supporters also will be pointing at his massive unsafe rallies as a reason why he was cheated. Thus far I'm seeing pics with "This is what the polls are not telling , Joe can't even pull crowds like this with celebrity speakers !" Not realizing Biden isn't doing events like this due to worries over Clovid and were seeing small car rallies etc held by him and Obama. To keep people safe.

[ChangingStation]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1351300.html

Here's further indication that whatever else, this isn't 2016.

[Amadeus Arkham]

Can I ask anyone here: Is anyone here friends with any Trump voters?

[Joker]

If Biden does win and polls are correct this time (which I hope) , the Trump supporters also will be pointing at his massive unsafe rallies as a reason why he was cheated. Thus far I'm seeing pics with "This is what the polls are not telling , Joe can't even pull crowds like this with celebrity speakers !" Not realizing Biden isn't doing events like this due to worries over Clovid and were seeing small car rallies etc held by him and Obama. To keep people safe.

The polls weren’t wrong in 2016. This idea needs to stop being perpetuated.

[ChangingStation]

The polls weren’t wrong in 2016. This idea needs to stop being perpetuated.

No, they weren't, people just took them literally.

[Gray Lensman]

The polls weren’t wrong in 2016. This idea needs to stop being perpetuated.

I always thought the polling errors from 2016 were not enough state by state polls to see how the electoral college would play out. Everything else was within the margin of error.

[Kirby101]

I always thought the polling errors from 2016 were not enough state by state polls to see how the electoral college would play out. Everything else was within the margin of error.

The margins of Trump's win in WI, MI and PA were too close for any poll to overcome. Less than 1%. Also polling likely voters only goes so far when Walker and Snyder were stopping people from voting.

[shooshoomanjoe]

Can I ask anyone here: Is anyone here friends with any Trump voters?

I think this is what they mean by shy trump supporters. I've seen one guy with his trailer peppered with trump crap and two guys with red MAGA hats but never met someone that I know, be it family, friend, co-worker or acquaintance. This year I've seen very few trump signs on lawns, compared to 2016.

[ChangingStation]

I think this is what they mean by shy trump supporters. I've seen one guy with his trailer peppered with trump crap and two guys with red MAGA hats but never met someone that I know, be it family, friend, co-worker or acquaintance. This year I've seen very few trump signs on lawns, compared to 2016.

Thing is, A) that's doesn't speak for everywhere, and B) from that definition, people are open to admitting they're voting for him so long as they don't know the person asking.

[Angilasman]

I think this is what they mean by shy trump supporters. I've seen one guy with his trailer peppered with trump crap and two guys with red MAGA hats but never met someone that I know, be it family, friend, co-worker or acquaintance. This year I've seen very few trump signs on lawns, compared to 2016.

Man, I live in Alabama and have seen more Biden/Harris signs than Trump ones. I mean, I'm sure Trump will win this state, but it does speak to an enthusiasm gap. Folks who are Trumpsters are keeping it a little under their hat.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

The margins of Trump's win in WI, MI and PA were too close for any poll to overcome. Less than 1%. Also polling likely voters only goes so far when Walker and Snyder were stopping people from voting.

If memory serves, the difference here in Pennsylvania was slightly less than 45,000, and that with a Democrat in the governor’s office and not much in the way of Republican shenanigans. The western half of the state carried Trump while in the eastern half, not enough blacks came out to vote, maybe because they didn’t much like Hillary Clinton, or perhaps an inbred reticence to vote for a woman as president, who knows. I like to things are much different this time, everyone has seen what a monster Trump has been, especially when it came to his shitty response to the virus which affected minorities more and decided one term with the Orange Menace was more than enough. We shall see.

[Tami]

Brett Kavanaugh Signals He’s Open to Stealing the Election for Trump

As the Senate was voting to elevate Amy Coney Barrett to a lifetime position on the Supreme Court on Monday night, the immediate stakes for the entire country were made suddenly clear by a critical election ruling from the court she now joins. On Monday night, Justice Brett Kavanaugh released a radical and brazenly partisan opinion that dashed any hopes he, as the Supreme Court’s new median justice, might slow-walk the court’s impending conservative revolution, while also threatening the integrity of next week’s election. In an 18-page lecture, the justice cast doubt on the legitimacy of many mail ballots and endorsed the most sinister component of Bush v. Gore. America’s new median justice is not a friend to democracy, and we may pay the price for Barrett’s confirmation in just eight days.

Kavanaugh’s opinion is the most notable of the bunch because he is the new median justice and the opinion is frankly terrifying. In one passage, Kavanaugh attempted to defend the Wisconsin law disqualifying ballots received after Election Day. He pointed out that “most States” share this policy, explaining:

Those States want to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day and potentially flip the results of an election. And those States also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.

Kavanaugh then quoted New York University law professor Richard Pildes stating that the “longer after Election Day any significant changes in vote totals take place, the greater the risk that the losing side will cry that the election has been stolen.” (Kavanaugh was quoting an article in which Pildes encouraged states to extend their ballot deadlines, directly contradicting Kavanaugh’s argument.)

[Malvolio]

Can I ask anyone here: Is anyone here friends with any Trump voters?

I wouldn't say "friends," but I know people who are Trump supporters whom I can be friendly with and talk about other topics without bringing up politics. On the other hand, two women who have been friends of mine for years both unfriended me on Facebook when I dared to criticize Trump on their pages.

[Jack Dracula]

Can I ask anyone here: Is anyone here friends with any Trump voters?

I do have two people I consider friends who support Trump although it’s more about their conservative philosophy than about him. Over the last couple of years they’ve seemed to become more radical in their beliefs.