Not really. This was about the mere fact that they have inspired people around the world. And guess what? Batman has. This is purely a way for you to try to move the goalposts
Except again, Batman has studied and mastered ninjutsu as well as many other martial arts. That's an established part of his character. Why are you doubting that? Zorro, last time I checked, did not travel to East Asia to train with martial arts masters.Precisely the point, wearing black or running around in the dark is only commonality between batman and a ninja. If batman is a ninja so Is zorro. Regardless of how many martial arts he "knows".i would argue that treating the character like what he is more universal, a detective with combat skills.
Also, Batman is treated as a detective with combat skills.
Well, good thing Batman has actually trained in and seemingly perfected many martial arts because that means that he's not far off from a ninja. Superman, however, is way far off from being a samurai.Actually superman becoming a samurai is very possible.Especially, if batman can become a ninja. You don't have to be strictly born into it to be one, from what i have read. Just need competence with a sword and loyalty to a master and mission. That's it. Regardless though it would be changing the concept of the Superman character.
According to quotes pulled directly from the comics, he's mastered them:His backstory says he has knowledge of 137 martial arts. Mastering them is different. Masters are people devoted to something and has been focused on it.
Well, according to the comic books "he is a master of all fighting arts" (Detective Comics #411) who "spent years perfecting every known fighting discipline." (The Ultimate Guide to the Justice League). The Ultimate Guide to Batman is even more specific, describing how "There are 127 major styles of combat. While abroad, Bruce learned them all, from Aikido to Yaw-Yan." And not only is Batman seemingly a master of every known martial art in the world, he is also apparently an expert in many esoteric fighting styles, the nature of which seem to be only known by the writers.But there's a lot more to the concept of Superman than "alien strongman" There's the fact of him being the farm boy from Kansas. There's also the fact of him being in a "love triangle" between Clark, Lois, and Superman. Superman: Red Son did away with both of those parts of the core concept of Superman.Only names changed. He was still an alien strongman as concept in red son...
Dude, its obvious that both Goku and Icon are adaptations of the Superman concept to appeal to audiences that the original might not captivate. That's painfully obvious. Again, does that mean that Superman himself doesn't have almost universal appeal? No. Of course not. However, it is indicative of how Superman sometimes needs to be adapted to fit all audiences. Again, nothing wrong with that.
Dude. This is just semantics. You are arguing the title of an anime movie that was chosen simply because it sounded cool.That's precisely a problem. If batman ninja isn't about a ninja then it's wrong. It was marketed batman ninja,except ninjas were fodders and concept was nowhere touched upon. The could have used the name of the period instead or something else. I saw the movie. Its basically like karate kid, except no karate and kungfu.
Well, again, they didn't really change the Batman concept in Batman: Ninja.Adapating a concept and changing it are two different things in my book.
It was revealed later on that Harry wasn't really "special" so much as lucky. He escaped because his mother's magic protected him from Voldemort. Also, "two sets of parents" being the aunt and uncle who abused him?Harry potter was a wizard. He was the one who escaped. The kid was born great, he just didn't have any idea about it. I said two sets of parents.
Dude. Do you even know the myth? Are you going off of the Disney movie? Alcmene was Heracles's biological and only mother. Zeus had an affair with her. Hera was not his mother and didn't even try to act like it. She tried to kill him as an infant by sending snakes after him. Last I checked, most mothers don't try to kill their kids. Hera is set up as the antagonist because she is the antagonist. She is not portrayed as any sort of motherly figure to him. But whatever, you'll probably try to argue otherwise just because...Hercules had two sets of parents. He had a devouring mother in hera, father in zeus as one set . His mortal parents Amphitryon and Alcmene in an other set. Zeus and alcmene signify his nature. Amphitryon and hera his nurture...Hera is very much herc's mother. She acts as an antagonistic figure.
Again, do you not know the myth? Dictys was not Perseus's stepfather or father. He took in Perseus and his mother, but he didn't marry her. In fact, part of the myth is that Perseus wants to protect his mother from being seduced by Polydectus, Dictys's brother. So, again, Perseus was raised by a single mother who was taken in by a fisherman. That's very different from saying he has two sets of parents. It sounds more like he has one mother and a father figure and another hated figure in his life.Jason existing doesn't mean he is a universal hero. Jason isn't. He is just a hero that's it and doesn't follow the archetype. Perseus had two sets of parents , ditto a universal hero. Perseus was raised by fisherman named Dictys. He slayed medusa for pete's sake.
It just sounds more and more like you're trying to backtrack on what you said earlier by casting a wider net.The set doesn't need to be complete(with a father and a mother archetype) nor does it have two be made of two characters of opposite sex or even the same species .it's basically bullet points what i wrote, ring any bells.for example, son of shiva and parvathy was raised by 6 women or sisters in hindu lore. Tarzan was raised by gorillas. Mowgli by wolves.there are countless examples like this in lores of other cultures around the world . There are even examples where two men birth children only to be raised by others. Jiraya was raised under the tutelage of toads and fought orochimaru-the snake for tsunade.
Either way, by your new definition, Batman would also qualify. After all, Bruce's original set of parents died in Crime Alley and after that, he was raised by his family butler, who has become the closest thing Bruce has to a father figure. So then, if the set doesn't need to be complete, then Alfred is Bruce's second "set" of parents.
Straight from Wikipedia:Right, i might be totally an idiot for thinking all the talks of fighting monsters, madness, nihilism, existential struggle, madness and the abyss is not ubermensch at all. /s
Get outta here with that. Batman is the ubermensch. He is the answer to questions and ethical conundrums of a world where god is dead and the devil is very much real. The goal of mankind is batman. Superman doesn't fit the bill, right now.He is based entirely on the values of mythical and religious thought.
So, yeah, that doesn't really sound like Batman. Bruce is not the product of eugenics or selective breeding. He's the example of a man who trained himself up. But either way, this is all beside the point.Zarathustra first announces the Übermensch as a goal humanity can set for itself. All human life would be given meaning by how it advanced a new generation of human beings. The aspiration of a woman would be to give birth to an Übermensch, for example; her relationships with men would be judged by this standard...some commentators associate the Übermensch with a program of eugenics. This is most pronounced when considered in the aspect of a goal that humanity sets for itself. The reduction of all psychology to physiology implies, to some, that human beings can be bred for cultural traits. This interpretation of Nietzsche's doctrine focuses more on the future of humanity than on a single cataclysmic individual....
...the Übermensch represents a higher biological type reached through artificial selection and at the same time is also an ideal for anyone who is creative and strong enough to master the whole spectrum of human potential,
That's the thing: he is. You're just choosing to ignore the examples of his influence. I mean, there are actual novels and scholarly articles written about Batman. There are numerous characters, both in American pop culture and in pop culture around the world, who were inspired by Batman. Why you're choosing to ignore all of that is beyond me.Then why is batman is very little used by without dc company backing by independent authors
Sure.That's just your prejudice. Just because you see malice in something, doesn't mean it actually exists. I compared it, superman symbol and the cross with swastika because it is relevant and it's basically me comparing it to apple logo or google one. I can't use those cause, there are still people who have no idea about it.
Uh, they couldn't recognize what bats are?Batman require you to know the meaning of what a bat is in english. While super is word that's spread around and people have more familiarity with that word. People also have innate ideas of what a strongman is.
Yeah. Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true.Bat-symbol would only mean blackblot or just a bat for many around the world.