So...are the mutants of Krakoa taking mutant children from their families?

[jwatson]

I posted something similar a few days back, but most solo Avengers have stories or crossovers with the X-Men that highlight their opposition to anti-mutant racism. So the idea that the mainstream MU ignores the mutant narrative outright or is actively anti-mutant is a stretch. Now X-fans can be mad that they aren’t seeing the mutant struggle enough in other books, but that’s a separate complaint from the Avengers being oblivious to their problems. And even then I still put the onus on the X-office to display good humans (not “focus” on them). Whether or not Iron man was punching out Purifiers the last decade didn’t affect the fact that the X-office wrote itself into a corner with an over saturation of human racism. The insane levels of vitriol toward mutants in the X-books is what needs to be addressed, not how frequently non X-books choose to prove that their heroes aren’t anti-mutant.

But if they want that narrative to change they have to do their part. The x-fans can say whatever they want to say but if a cloud that is killing mutants is travelling all over the ENTIRE marvel universe and in those books they aren't showing those heros dealing with it too why should an overall narrative be dumped only on the x-books to poison those. If Thor had ONE panel showing him helping a mutant x-fans couldn't say Thor never did anything to help. At that point then yes the onus is on the x-books to either act like he has helped or go out of their way to show they did. Also how can you do a company wide event where the inhumans basically came and dropped their home in the middle of the MU and was forcing people to change against their will and those inhumans were showing up in books like Avengers etc and they were doing their part to help normalize it but then on the flip side don't take the panel time to try to normalize the mutant aspect of things. You can't have it both ways. You can't force once side to support the other with their dollars and do all the heavy lifting in a shared universe or you end up in the situation they are in now.

I would LOVE to hear how the x-office should have explored a cloud that was literally killing the characters in their books and interrupting there stories while the writers and editors on the other side got have casino fun and other stories as though they were in a completely different universe but then should be given credit for doing something they never did. The painted themselves into a corner and now that Marvel has the right back and X-men are the big thing again they are paying the price for their utter ignoring of it.

And the x-men did show good humans as late as bendis run but the favor was never returned in other offices.

[MyriVerse]

Wouldn't put it past them. It's very clear that the Krakoans are being written as the villains.

[saahir]

I honestly wanna know what comic book the rest of y'all are reading. �� The insane of amount of crap, some fans are just making up to paint the X-Men as bad guys seems so weird to me.

[Killerbee911]

Wouldn't put it past them. It's very clear that the Krakoans are being written as the villains.

They aren't being written as the villains, They are written with some ambiguity that leaves in enough room for you view somethings they do as wrong. In the Marauders, they just finished saving mutants from the clearly bad Russians. In X-men 1 they saved children from being experimented and imprisoned on by the clearly bad Orchis group. That is not the act of villians. People waiting for the X-men proper do something outright evil are going to be in for a disappointment. The "evil" will mostly be philosophy based like the X-men not trying to get along with humans or bending a rule for the greater good or using economic pressure with life-saving drugs to make people accept a mutant island or accepting murderers and criminals to go unpunished. The X-men isn't going to be out here snatching babies and murdering humans. What I have seen so far X-force is going to be the only book where suspect stuff happens and the rest of books look like traditional hero stories.

[SchismOfMadroces]

Most of the X-forums are either paranoid or horny.

Por que no los dos?

[Thundershot]

The thought crossed my mind while reading Marauders yesterday. What about pro-mutant parents of mutant children who want their kids to be safe on Krakoa.... but they obviously want to be with their kids? Will they let the human parents live there?

[Askani's Flame]

The thought crossed my mind while reading Marauders yesterday. What about pro-mutant parents of mutant children who want their kids to be safe on Krakoa.... but they obviously want to be with their kids? Will they let the human parents live there?

Non-mutant parents and family members can live in Krakoan biomes with their children, but at this time are not allowed in Krakoa without permission and a mutant guide at all times.

[cranger]

The thought crossed my mind while reading Marauders yesterday. What about pro-mutant parents of mutant children who want their kids to be safe on Krakoa.... but they obviously want to be with their kids? Will they let the human parents live there?

At the risk of someone taking this completely out of context and attacking me for having thoughts that conflict with theirs, I have wondered what the parent involvement is because it has not been shown (it used to, back in the day, when people wrote) and this issue made it even more bizarre. It is as if the three (not counting Kitty) mutants at the Park did not even know what they were signing up for, pretty much like a scene out of every kids show where the villain entices the victims to come live in magical candy land full of rides before turning them into plump food sources or slaves.

[sensormellow]

I kinda feel like this is a trick question

[useridgoeshere]

The thought crossed my mind while reading Marauders yesterday. What about pro-mutant parents of mutant children who want their kids to be safe on Krakoa.... but they obviously want to be with their kids? Will they let the human parents live there?

There is no such thing. Human parents hate Mutant children and will kill them (or turn them over to someone else to do the deed) at the first sign of Mutantcy.

[cable guy]

I don't think so.

Either way it's where they want to be.

[Punch Dimension.]

No they're rescusing them from their abusive flatscan families. The X-Men are such heroes tbh.

[Domino_Dare-Doll]

There is no such thing. Human parents hate Mutant children and will kill them (or turn them over to someone else to do the deed) at the first sign of Mutantcy.

Except, that's not true? We've seen at least a handful of characters with on at least amicable terms with their parents:

Remy LeBeau, Scott Summers, Kitty Pryde, Bobby Drake, Henry "Hank" Mc'Coy, The Guthrie Family, to name just a few?

[Knives]

Well so far I have not seen any X-men or mutant forcing mutant children to live in Krakoa and I didn't see them separating children from their parents but I have seen human governments doing this for years so until the situation is reversed I am still in favor of Krakoa and of the X-men.

Seriously some will not rest until Krakoa fails and say I warned . The point is that eventually Krakoa will fall this is not the endgame guys.

I understand why some do not like the current situation of the X-men but if you are going to try to prove your point at least use some more solid argument or wait until paradise begins to show their secrets and betrayals to point the finger.

At least for the time being until the situation changes (and will change) the X-men and Krakoa have done nothing so serious that other governments in the world have not done.

When X-men drop a chemical bomb that kills humans or transforms people against their will and let it happen for months before taking action as another group did then you can accuse them .

[Domino_Dare-Doll]

Well so far I have not seen any X-men or mutant forcing mutant children to live in Krakoa and I didn't see them separating children from their parents but I have seen human governments doing this for years so until the situation is reversed I am still in favor of Krakoa and of the X-men.

Seriously some will not rest until Krakoa fails and say I warned . The point is that eventually Krakoa will fall this is not the endgame guys.

I understand why some do not like the current situation of the X-men but if you are going to try to prove your point at least use some more solid argument or wait until paradise begins to show their secrets and betrayals to point the finger.

At least for the time being until the situation changes (and will change) the X-men and Krakoa have done nothing so serious that other governments in the world have not done.

When X-men drop a chemical bomb that kills humans or transforms people against their will and let it happen for months before taking action as another group did then you can accuse them .

I wouldn't say anyone's trying to accuse them; it's just more readers trying to make sense of everything. Clarification, ya know? It helps to type it out sometimes. I mean, I don't trust Charles as far as I can friggin' throw him, but I do believe that Krakoa is a step in the right direction. It's the hints of radicalisation from some characters I'm a bit unsettled at (broad disdain for humans from Storm, for example,) but I'm trusting other writers in the other books to help flesh that out or, at least, clarify it one way or the other. It could just be that Hickman's a bit shit at getting it across without making everyone sound like Magneto.