Last edited by zinderel; 04-09-2020 at 11:08 AM.
There's no point in even entertaining this disenginuous argument given the fact that many prominent Democratic politicians -- including our last president -- are Latino, Asian, African-American, Muslim, female and LGBT.
It's the equivalent of saying they don't care about themselves -- a completely dishonest argument stated for effect without concern for truth.
Again -- the reason the vast majority of civil rights legislation does not pass/gets rolled back is because of Republicans -- not Democrats.
Anyone who continues to try to argue otherwise is primarily doing so only to cover for the failings of their own candidate.
Yeah. I mean, in fairness, Sanders was always running against the Democratic Party as this evil, monolithic thing with designs on power at the expense of the innocent and no better than the Republican Party. I guess he just didn’t realize that Democrats typically quite like their party.
With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I don’t think I would say even Sanders supporters have the level of disdain for the party that he does. I think that they just genuinely feel like Sanders is the direction that the party should be going, even if the vast majority of those supporting Sanders really like Obama and his party.
With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Part of the problem is depicting it as a generational struggle rather than the passing of a baton.
In that respect, I think both AOC and Pelosi are on the same wavelength and other Democrats should follow their example.
Said passage is also dependent on progressives winning enough votes to support their movement and enact legislation in the future.
The Democratic party shouldn't be held hostage to an ideology that loses elections and that only a minority of it's number support.
Last edited by aja_christopher; 04-09-2020 at 11:29 AM.
Voters voted for Biden but Bernie Bros and trump supporters are saying the DNC gave him the nomination. At some point these people have to face reality.
Last edited by TheDarman; 04-09-2020 at 11:34 AM.
With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Just because the party relies on minorities to win elections doesn't mean they care about their interests. These days they always talk about the importance of the Latino vote, but do you think Biden is really going to campaign on amnesty for undocumented immigrants or abolishing ICE or any of that other stuff that those voters care about but which are deemed completely untenable among DC insiders? Biden is basically offering to do just enough so that we can all stop feeling guilty and pretend like everything's fine, but without actually addressing the root cause of any of our problems in a substantive way. Like oh, maybe he will have a woman as his running mate and then he'll step aside in 2024 so that she can run, and we'll finally have a female president! But none of that really means anything, if neither he nor whoever he chooses has the courage or resolve to actually do anything to improve the condition of women in the face of what will undoubtedly be stiff Republican opposition.
I think it’s a mix just like the Republican Party. There is a contingent that absolutely has disdain for the party leaders. Not the party as a whole but where it is in certain aspects from where it came from. It definitely moved more right in the last 30 years on some platforms and moved more left on others