That is literally a false equivalence those men were from different corners of the world the marvel universe exists solely on NYC and let’s be real if superheroes were cultivating in just one city people would have conspiracies of the US manufacturing superheroes
I don’t even know how to respond to that. all i will say is is there any reason why NYC isn’t the safest city in America when they have a dozen or so superheroes protecting or why the Avengers never deal with Magneto or the sinister six or even the fact the avengers and F4 are celebrities but hate Spider Man and the X MenWhy not cultivate a poetic sensibility among readers where the cosmopolitan culturally diverse and adventurous world of real-life NYC finds a metaphor as a superhero city in comics?
All i’m asking is do you base your opinion of the main marvel universe off the bad aspects? Like are you OK with Wolverine having sex with Squirrel Girl who until recently was like 16? Yes the Ultimates has bad elements but they don’t define the majority of itThis is whataboutism and picking at straws and a cheap and childish dodge. You asked about why people dislike Ultimate Marvel right. The fact is that you have to defend and excuse this, rather than cite plenty of countervailing and alternate moments of positive behavior to commend and defend.
yeah because it’s not PC anymore. If a woman has sex with multiple guys she’s a strong sexually liberated woman but a man has sex with multiple women he’s a woman hater. So i guess you think James Bond is outdated?Actually one of the screenwriters behind Black Panther condemned that and said that it's one of the things wouldn't fly today. And the later MCU movies as per RDJ's request made Pepper Tony's only love interest and had Tony settle with her which isn't the case with the comics at all. RDJ asked for that partly out of friendship with Gwyneth Paltrow to make sure she would have an expanded role in the MCU. That actually went against director's Jon Favreau's original plan to have Happy and Pepper get hitched like in the comics and Tony to jump girl to girl a la James Bond.
Look that’s one guy’s opinion. I think you’re looking too deep into this
You have yet to back your claim that Ultimate Cap was consistently an assholeThat was Ultimate Thor (not that it made him interesting) who came off as the nicest of the Ultimates.
I meant that was the point for ultimates HulkNo he isn't. You literally don't understand the purpose of the character to claim this.
You can have your opinion but to me Victor Van Damme doesn’t sound nearly as corny as Victor Von Doom. He may as well call himself and Evil Badguy. Gee I wonder which character will be the villain probably the one with literal Doom in his name. Not to mention Doom means fate yet he has nothing to do with fateFor one thing the names don't flow well. Victor Von Doom has an assonance because of the increased stress of the "O" sound. "or"/"on"/"oom" It flows outward, sonorously. Whereas with Victor Van Damme, "or"/"an"/"am" lacks music, it's a mix of o and a vowels and that breaks the alliterative assonance. There's a reason why Stan Lee used alliterative named and why they work, because the sound it creates conveys a dimension of character. Having a character with a first name "Victor" which is actually a name you would expect of a hero with a surname called "doom" expresses something fundamental about the character that Victor and "Damme" don't and before you say "Damme" means "Damn", the name actually means "of Dam" it refers to Flemish people who live near dams. Where Stan Lee is direct and in your face, Ultimate Doom relies on America's ignorance and lack of knowledge of other cultures to work.
Do you know how little that narrows it down? And again his parents were mystic Romani. Great representation may as well give Luke Cage gold chains and have him speak in slangThe very first origin of Doom in Fantastic Four Annual #2 by Stan and Jack, portrays him as a member of an oppressed and persecuted minority in Latveria.