Originally Posted by
RachelGrey
Yeah, I think what some people want is for it to be the mutants on the run from everyone. We get an Avengers team who are tasked to hunt and kill mutants! Tony Stark becomes the lead architect of the new Sentinels and the upgraded Nimrod, so that they can kill and exterminate all mutants on Earth! The remaining mutants are down to around 10 and they live in a basement of a bar and can't even go out without immediately being hunted down and brutally killed!
I get it, people hate that mutants are living on an island to escape the world wide genocide of mutant kind! So the only good way for the X-men is to live in a bunker somewhere in the US and every time they step outside the Sentinels, O.N.E., US Government, Project Wideawake, Weapon X, Avengers, Fantastic Four, and every other hero and villain on Earth is trying to kill them!
Uncanny X-Men under Rosenberg is the end of the story, if people didn't already get that! After all the years of prejudice, hate, and genocide the mutants are dying and very few remain! They are being picked off one by one and soon they will all be dead!
I get that people are purists and want to go back to the 1960's run when everyone was a generic archetype, the heroes were heroes, the villains were villains, and that's it. The X-Men were 5 kids striving to save people who hate and fear them! People didn't know who they were, they could pass as human in public, people didn't know where they lived! That story only works if there are very few mutants! But once you have thousands or millions of mutants, and they are being persecuted and hunted down for extermination world wide, then it becomes a bigger story!
Do those 5 kids hide in that mansion and ignore the plight of the millions who are being hunted and killed in the genocide?
Or do you leave the safety of your mansion and fight to save your own people from the genocide?
Marvel already did the story where they reduced the mutant population to 198, and then proceeded to show the brutal truth of human racism toward mutants because all the racists were just waiting for the moment when the mutants were so diminished so they could then kill the remainder with little or no trouble!
Unless you take the Marvel Universe back to the 1960's and make it so mutants are practically unknown by humans you can't actually tell stories where they protect and save humans from bad mutants!
Because who are the bad mutants?
Some of them are outright villains like Shaw, Selene, Emplate, Sinister, etc...
Some of them are freedom fighters like Magneto, Mystique, Destiny, Pyro, Avalanche, Exodus, Amelia Voight, Frenzy, etc...
Some are like Emma Frost who believe they can use the human business world as a way to pressure or force the government and politicians for mutant rights!
One person's terrorist is another person's hero! Magneto located detention facilities in the United States and freed the mutants who were being held illegally by the US Government!
Emma Frost used her corporate funds to build schools with a pro-mutant admission policy!
They only way you can go back to the X-Men living in a mansion is if no one knows where they live! But what about the rest of the mutants in the world? A million mutants aren't going to fit in a mansion! I guess they just get abandoned by the X-Men, because it's obviously way more important to defend the humans against those dirty disgusting mutants who don't have a right to exist! Who cares if a few million mutants are killed by Sentinels, as long as the X-men keep living in their mansion and defending and protecting the "good humans"!
Every time this conversation comes up I keep asking what people expect exactly? Do we just retcon everything back to the 1960's and pretend the entire history of the Marvel Earth didn't happen? Humans have been trying to exterminate or enslave mutant kind since the 1970's in Marvel Comics!
Days of Future Past came out in 1981 and predicted that the humans would exterminate all the mutants. The last few survivors of the mutant genocide tried to alter the past in the hopes that it would save everyone! Even then there was no guarantee that the horrible future had been prevented!
That is 1981 to 2020, you need to erase all those years to set the clock back on prejudice against mutants!
How many mutants are allowed to exist in this retcon marvel universe?
If you have too many, conflict between humans and mutants is inevitable!
So how many is too many? Is 198 too many? Is 100 too many? Is 50 too many? Is 25 too many? Is 10 too many?
Once you are less than 10 mutants total on the entire Earth that's pretty much telling the story of the Fantastic Four, because honestly with that few no one would even know what a mutant is!