It separates Knightquest The Crusade vs The Search when they should be integrated. And biggest problem: printing error, Pages 3 and 4 of Legends of the Dark Knight issue #61 (part of The Search) are printed out of order.Originally Posted by zep81
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02-05-2018, 11:20 AM #16Not a Newbie Member
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02-05-2018, 11:38 AM #17The Dark Knight
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Thanks for that. I have Robin #0 on it's own already so I'm good for that. Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05
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02-05-2018, 01:01 PM #18Not a Newbie Member
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LOL, I don't know why I even brought up Robin #0 when that's only an issue for Vol 3. That's what I get for looking back at previous posts. Originally Posted by zep81
All in all, for Vol 2, I really don't like the separation of The Crusade and The Search, I didn't do that with my custom bind. I loved the integration, it's way more accurate and way more fitting as Robin #7 ends both The Crusade and The Search. And the printing error really irks me (if I had a need to get Vol 2, because I didn't custom bind it, the printing error would keep me from buying it). But The Crusade issues have no error I think, so there's that at least.Last edited by JBatmanFan05; 02-05-2018 at 01:10 PM.
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Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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02-06-2018, 10:11 AM #19The Dark Knight
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Do you know if Volume 2 of the omnibus includes Robin #1? Or at least the first 6 pages with Azrael/Robin. Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05
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02-06-2018, 11:49 AM #20Not a Newbie Member
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Robin 1 and 2 are included (I confirmed it, but don't own the Omnibus). Though including all of #2 is probably questionable if they did that, I don't know. Excerpts are best for these two IMHO. I think looking at pics of I've seen online that all of 1&2 are included, not just excerpts. Originally Posted by zep81
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Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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02-06-2018, 01:26 PM #21The Dark Knight
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Thanks for that. Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05
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02-06-2018, 04:19 PM #22Mighty Member
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Here is what they did with the French version:
- Batman: Sword of Azrael #1-4
- Batman #488
- Batman: Vengeance of Bane #1
- Countdown #7
- Bane of the Demon #1-4
THE FALL
- Prologue 1 - Batman #489
- Prologue 2 - Batman #490
- Prologue 3 - Batman #491
- Chapter 1 - Batman #492
- Chapter 2 - Dectective Comics #659
- Chapter 3 - Batman #493
- Chapter 4 - Detective Comics #660
- Chapter 5 - Batman #494
- Chapter 6 - Detective Comics #661
- Chapter 7 - Batman #495
- Chapter 8 - Detectice Comics #662
- Chapter 9 - Batman #496
- Chapter 10 - Detective Comics #663
- Chapter 11 - Batman #497
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THE CHALLANGE
- Chapter 12 - Detective Comics #664
- Chapter 13 - Showcase'93 #7
- Chapter 14 - Showcase'93 #8
- Chapter 15 - Batman #498
- Interlude 1 - Shadow of the Bat #16
- Interlude 2 - Shadow of the Bat #17
- Interlude 3 - Shadow of the Bat #18
- Chapter 16 - Detective Comics #665
- Chapter 17 - Batman #499
- Chapter 18 - Detective Comics #666
- Chapter 19 - Batman #500
- The Quest: Chapter 1 - Justice League Task Force #5
- The Quest: Chapter 2 - Justice League Task Force #6
THE CRUSADE
- The Crusade: Chapter 1 - Batman #501
- The Crusade: Chapter 2 - Batman #502
- The Crusade: Chapter 3 - Shadow of the Bat #19
- The Crusade: Chapter 4 - Shadow of the Bat #20
- The Crusade: Chapter 5 - Detective Comics #667
- The Crusade: Chapter 6 - Detective Comics #668
- The Crusade: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #669
- The Crusade: Chapter 8 - Detective Comics #670
- The Crusade: Chapter 9 - Catwoman #6
- The Crusade: Chapter 10 - Batman #503
- The Crusade: Chapter 11 - Batman #504
- The Crusade: Chapter 12 - Catwoman #7
- The Crusade: Chapter 13 - Detective Comics #671
- The Crusade: Chapter 14 - Detective Comics #672
- The Crusade: Chapter 15 - Detective Comics #673
- The Quest: Chapter 3 - Shadow of the Bat #21
- The Quest: Chapter 4 - Shadow of the Bat #22
- The Quest: Chapter 5 - Shadow of the Bat #23
THE QUEST
- The Crusade: Chapter 16 - Shadow of the Bat #24
- The Crusade: Chapter 17 - Batman #505
- The Crusade: Chapter 18 - Shadow of the Bat #25
- The Crusade: Chapter 19 - Batman #506
- The Crusade: Chapter 20 - Batman #507
- The Crusade: Chapter 21 - Shadow of the Bat #26
- The Crusade: Chapter 22 - Shadow of the Bat #27
- The Crusade: Chapter 23 - Detective Comics #674
- The Crusade: Chapter 24 - Batman #508
- The Crusade: Chapter 25 - Shadow of the Bat #28
- The Crusade: Chapter 26 - Detective Comics #675
- The Quest: Chapter 6 - Legends of the Dark Knight #59
- The Quest: Chapter 7 - Legends of the Dark Knight #60
- The Quest: Conclusion - Legends of the Dark Knight #61
- The Crusade: Conclusion - Robin #7
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THE END
- The End: Chapter 1 - Batman #509
- The End: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #29
- The End: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #676
- The End: Chapter 4 - Legends of the Dark Knight #62
- The End: Chapter 5 - Robin #8
- The End: Chapter 6 - Catwoman #12
- The End: Chapter 7 - Batman #510
- The End: Chapter 8 - Shadow of the Bat #30
- The End: Chapter 9 - Detective Comics #677
- The End: Conclusion - Legends of the Dark Knight #63
- The End: Epilogue 1 - Robin #9
- The End: Epilogue 2 - Showcase'94 #10
PRODIGAL SON
- Prodigal Son: Prologue - Robin #0
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 1 - Batman #512
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #32
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #679
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 4 - Robin #11
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 5 - Batman #513
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 6 - Shadow of the Bat #33
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #680
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 8 - Robin #12
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 9 - Batman #514
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 10 - Shadow of the Bat #34
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 11 - Detective Comics #681
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 12 - Robin #13
- Troika: Chapter 1 - Batman #515
- Troika: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #35
- Troika: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #682
- Troika: Chapter 4 - Robin #14
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02-06-2018, 04:39 PM #25Not a Newbie Member
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OMG. DC actually put Robin #0 in as the first part of Prodigal in this French release?! If this doesn't happen in the US Omnibus Vol 3, now people should be especially super pissed.PRODIGAL SON
- Prodigal Son: Prologue - Robin #0
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 1 - Batman #512
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #32
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #679
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 4 - Robin #11
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 5 - Batman #513
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 6 - Shadow of the Bat #33
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 7 - Detective Comics #680
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 8 - Robin #12
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 9 - Batman #514
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 10 - Shadow of the Bat #34
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 11 - Detective Comics #681
- Prodigal Son: Chapter 12 - Robin #13
- Troika: Chapter 1 - Batman #515
- Troika: Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Bat #35
- Troika: Chapter 3 - Detective Comics #682
- Troika: Chapter 4 - Robin #14Last edited by JBatmanFan05; 02-06-2018 at 04:52 PM.
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Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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As I understand it, in our Omnibus Vol 2, The Crusade and The Search are totally separated. Originally Posted by jb681131
But in these French versions, they are properly integrated (well, integrated, but a tad poorly IMHO). Ergo, French ordering > superior to ours in America in Omnibus Vol 2.Last edited by JBatmanFan05; 02-06-2018 at 05:05 PM.
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Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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02-07-2018, 01:48 AM #27Mighty Member
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@JBatmanFan05 & @ all other
The French Ommibuses of Batman are overall better than the US.
But we don't have all stories published yet, they are re-publishing it slowly but surely.
The French editor Dargaut has a parternship with DC under the label Urban Comics.
It's why recently there was Batman: The Dark Prince Charming by French author/artist Marini.
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02-07-2018, 06:59 AM #28Not a Newbie Member
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Better in terms of content inclusion and ordering perhaps, but these are also hardly "Omnibuses" by US standards. It takes like 8 books just to get the Knightfall-Knightsend Saga. Originally Posted by jb681131
I'm not trying to suggest I wouldn't prefer these because they're 8 volumes, but in the US you'll get maybe the 8 vols and maybe Omnibuses too, so you have more choice.Last edited by JBatmanFan05; 02-07-2018 at 12:25 PM.
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Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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Why is it that every other country seems to have better collections than the US? Those are very attractive volumes and I like the cover art and typeface they used. I'm also impressed with the contents. I would prefer smaller books like these than the impractical behemoths DC prefers in the US. I wouldn't mind Robin #0 being left out of the omnibus though since we have Batman: Zero Hour.
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02-07-2018, 11:57 AM #30Not a Newbie Member
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The unique thing about Robin #0 is that it wasn't exactly like the other ZH #0's.....if you recall it deliberately went into Two-Face/Dick-as-Robin stuff that became important to Prodigal. It belongs in both IMHO (in fact, it might belong less in ZH). Just because it's one place doesn't mean it doesn't belong in the other too. It LITERALLY leads into Batman #512...completes a scene, completes a scene of dialogue with Dick taking the cowl. I know I may seem over passionate on this, but I always feel like some don't freshly remember how #0 went or how #512 opened. Originally Posted by PurpleGlovez
Robin #0 is almost like a clever trick Dixon played where he got to kickoff Prodigal and do its conclusion (Robin #13).
I challenge people, go check out Robin #0 and the rest of Prodigal and come back and tell me you're really fine with it being left out. (if you can say that, then I will simply be shocked and know we're far apart on what we personally think it means for a story to belong in an arc)
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Robin_Vol_4_0Last edited by JBatmanFan05; 02-07-2018 at 04:55 PM.
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Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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