Originally Posted by
Korath
I'm not ignoring anything. I say that when they aren't depicted like Azzarello's, they are extremely toxic because they put horrible ideas like segregation and sexism on a pedestal.
And frankly, considering how bad Perez's works was (I couldn't stand to read more than a handful of issues because the art and the writing and the very story itself was horribly dated - if not outdated - when I tried), and yet is considered the Golden Era of WW comics... Yeah, I've got a problem with some very large elements of this mythos.
But I'm not surprised that it works, especially for anglo-saxons readers. But I'm not one of those and I can't help but see the toxicitiy and the horrible elements of the WW mythos.
When replacing but one element makes it a far-right wet dream, something is irredeemably rotten and needs to be depicted as such or entirely excised. Here, replacing "Man" by "Woman" on the Amazons, or "PoC" makes Themyscyra an atrocious place to be, and everyone would agree to that. But because it's for women whow ere victims of rape and abuses thousands of years ago, apparently it gets a pass and it's okay to be presented in a positive light.
Well, no. It doesn't. Paradise Island society, when not depicted as it was in New 52 is even more horrible because it paints ideas which should be quashed in a good light. Again, if they want to keep the all-female society, drop the warrior aspect. No society ever, especially one with Antiquity mindset can be enlightened and warlike. Knights, Samuraï, Hoplites... all their stories as we know them today are fairy tales when the real ones were more often than not hopelessly violent. To say that just because those are women is different is just plain all sexism. To say that their society is better because they are isolated from the outside world is just isolationism. That they hold the whole world in contempt because of a vision of Man as an essentialised vision of it is jsut as much segregations than if they said "PoC are by nature vicious and violent and cruel".