Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
Team Cap (both Rogers and Danvers)
What I mean is that he generally uses tropes of the characters based on their most stereotypical and simplified form, which is ooc.
eg: In his most shallow form Jason is the jock/badboy archetype, so he must love talkin bout chicks and drinking all the time right?, he must exude real confidence, also since he is a big guy, he must be like a jock right, all brawn no brain right? Hint, all those are either wrong or heavily exaggerated points of his character.
In my opinion, Tynion relies too much on the tropes belonging to the character archetypes that HE considers each of the robins fitting into, to inform him of their actual character, which is ridiculous since they all almost go against their perceived archetypes when you actually analyze them.
Not when they're good writers. One of the reasons Alan Moore is so praised is precisely because he subverts and deconstructs those tropes or creates new ones entirely. Tynion has always written his stories like a high schooler writes fanfiction, with zero understanding or interested on going beyond those tropes.
True, i apreciate that Tynion brougth some parts of old Tim back (not wanting to be a costumed vigilante forever, his "big picture" thinking), but the overeliance in tech and hackingn is really annoying. Also, props to the part about the Robins being the oppisite of the archetypes, sometimes i feel that people take fanon way too seriously.In my opinion, Tynion relies too much on the tropes belonging to the character archetypes that HE considers each of the robins fitting into, to inform him of their actual character, which is ridiculous since they all almost go against their perceived archetypes when you actually analyze them.
Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
Team Cap (both Rogers and Danvers)
It's really weird that Jason could turn up to be so self-destructive just because he lost one eye and a leg. I mean, seriously, considering the technology level at that time, losing eye/leg shouldn't be a problem at all! He can just replace them with artificial ones with even better quality and extra functions! That's a lame reason.
And his (step)mother died because of drugs, and his (once) best friend was struggling with them, too. I don't see any possible reason that Jason could let himself to follow the same route.
I don't believe Jason would kill himself with such a slow and painful way without any dignity. If he hates someone/himself, he'd rather be killed by his enemy, or drag all of them into hell with him, or sacrifice himself honorably in a real battle.
He made his way out of his own grave. He will never give up. He will never settle. That's what shinning in his spirit.
Last edited by magpieM; 10-11-2017 at 11:17 AM.