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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Jean will get like 1 year. Congrats the editors for being cowards when it comes to scott being dead.
    So you're pushing for Scott to stay dead? Isn't this what you have been railing against forever? You know, a character staying dead to prop up another one?

    You're not seriously saying that since Jean fans had to suffer all those years, Scott fans should have to as well? That's just more suffering that serves no one.

    100 Pages of this thread! I'm not sure if that's good or bad actually...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    So you're pushing for Scott to stay dead? Isn't this what you have been railing against forever? You know, a character staying dead to prop up another one?

    You're not seriously saying that since Jean fans had to suffer all those years, Scott fans should have to as well? That's just more suffering that serves no one.
    It's just retarded. You can call it what it is.

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    Congratulations for reaching 100 pages people, the will and stubbornness of many users clearly knows no bounds
    "Wow. You made Spider-Man sad, congratulations. I stabbed The Hulk last week"
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    While I would have preferred that he'd stayed dead, Jean's character should still be fine as long as she's allowed to do her own separate thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    Congratulations for reaching 100 pages people, the will and stubbornness of many users clearly knows no bounds
    Hahah xD was thinking the same.

    But cheers for reaching 100 pages.
    Jean, Scott n Emma would be proud n confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    So you're pushing for Scott to stay dead? Isn't this what you have been railing against forever?You know, a character staying dead to prop up another one?
    HAHAHAHAHA AS if I would fight to get Cyclops back.
    Since when Cyclops dead is proping Jean?
    You're not seriously saying that since Jean fans had to suffer all those years, Scott fans should have to as well? That's just more suffering that serves no one.
    Do what? Jean needs space to develop, She won't have it with Scott alive. She still has a lot proof.
    Scott was dead for 3 years and then there was Tyke

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    100 Pages of this thread! I'm not sure if that's good or bad actually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    While I would have preferred that he'd stayed dead, Jean's character should still be fine as long as she's allowed to do her own separate thing.
    Jean can still do her own thing if Cyke is around ... or together.
    It’s the writers fault if they can’t deliver that, not the character or the ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA AS if I would fight to get Cyclops back.
    Since when Cyclops dead is proping Jean?

    Do what? Jean needs space to develop, She won't have it with Scott alive. She still has a lot proof.
    Scott was dead for 3 years and then there was Tyke

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    And what supports ur claim?
    How is Scott’s aliveness gonna hinder Jeans development?


    ?? Is aliveness even a word??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbz_A View Post
    Jean can still do her own thing if Cyke is around ... or together.
    It’s the writers fault if they can’t deliver that, not the character or the ship.
    Nope. Not the way the people like Cyclops presented. It's the character.

    I'm amazed people think Guggenheim Kitty is bad. Like just wait. The real black hole is coming back. I'd prefer to have Jean (and really ALL of my faves, honestly) away from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    Nope. Not the way the people like Cyclops presented. It's the character.

    I'm amazed people think Guggenheim Kitty is bad. Like just wait. The real black hole is coming back. I'd prefer to have Jean (and really ALL of my faves, honestly) away from that.
    What the character became: Supreme leader.
    And looks like fans won't accept anything beyond leader
    LOL yeah. Guggs Kitty was bad, but it is funny that nobody recognize that scott leadership was very similar. The only difference is that it was Ellis, Whedon, Gillen writing. That makes a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    Nope. Not the way the people like Cyclops presented. It's the character.

    I'm amazed people think Guggenheim Kitty is bad. Like just wait. The real black hole is coming back. I'd prefer to have Jean (and really ALL of my faves, honestly) away from that.
    How is cyclops character presented? I really fail to see what’s in Cyclops character that will ruin Jeans development?

    I mean, I am a Jean fan .. and I want her to have a good story n development but I fail to see how cyclops would not allow that.
    Jean had year without Cyclops and we saw no development or good story ... sooo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    What the character became: Supreme leader.
    And looks like fans won't accept anything beyond leader
    LOL yeah. Guggs Kitty was bad, but it is funny that nobody recognize that scott leadership was very similar. The only difference is that it was Ellis, Whedon, Gillen writing. That makes a big difference.
    LOOOOL Hows Kitty’s leadership similar to Scott’s?
    And btw Cyclops has always been a leader, and he could co-lead with Jean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    What the character became: Supreme leader.
    And looks like fans won't accept anything beyond leader
    LOL yeah. Guggs Kitty was bad, but it is funny that nobody recognize that scott leadership was very similar. The only difference is that it was Ellis, Whedon, Gillen writing. That makes a big difference.
    Ultimately everything comes down to execution. If Kitty doing everything of consequence in Gold had somehow been written well, I doubt we'd see the level of angst we did on that run.

    If you go back and look at the Utopia era, Scott's panel time wasn't astronomical, but he was calling the shots. I think it was more the fact that he was involved in pretty much everything than it was that he was actually doing everything.

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    Because Jean fans fear that with Scott back he'll take control of the X-Men from her and push her back to little more than a supporting role rather than have her as the leader and give her a chance to shine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple of Redd View Post
    Nope. Not the way the people like Cyclops presented. It's the character.

    I'm amazed people think Guggenheim Kitty is bad. Like just wait. The real black hole is coming back. I'd prefer to have Jean (and really ALL of my faves, honestly) away from that.
    Bc his Kitty IS bad

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