Kyle Rayner Appreciation 2019

**SebastianS** · 07-10-2019, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by LP22

It's important to note that tom king writes many characters out of character examples like batman and mister miracle come to mind.

I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that the stories he pitched to Editorial were supposed to feature a different character from the one in the final product? Even King himself stated that all the main characters in Heroes in Crisis were proposed by Editorial.

**LP22** · 07-10-2019, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by SebastianS

I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that the stories he pitched to Editorial were supposed to feature a different character from the one in the final product? Even King himself stated that all the main characters in Heroes in Crisis were proposed by Editorial.

I'm sure batman is 100% his take due to DC getting him off batman due to tanking sales and cutting his run short.

**SebastianS** · 07-11-2019, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by LP22

I'm sure batman is 100% his take due to DC getting him off batman due to tanking sales and cutting his run short.

Is it that bad? Last time I read Batman consistently was during Snyder's Night of the Owls. After that, it was only casually, and I have not been following King's run at all. The whole Knightfall re-do is a turn off (not because of Knightfall, but because in general, I am not a fan of revisiting classic storylines in this medium).

I have to say that, generally, I am reading (and enjoying) far more 90s comics nowadays than in the actual 90s.

It must be a sorry state that of DC comics nowadays. It feels so.... small.

**LP22** · 07-11-2019, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by SebastianS

Is it that bad? Last time I read Batman consistently was during Snyder's Night of the Owls. After that, it was only casually, and I have not been following King's run at all. The whole Knightfall re-do is a turn off (not because of Knightfall, but because in general, I am not a fan of revisiting classic storylines in this medium).

I have to say that, generally, I am reading (and enjoying) far more 90s comics nowadays than in the actual 90s.

It must be a sorry state that of DC comics nowadays. It feels so.... small.

Sadly I feel like that on the entire comic book industry.

**SebastianS** · 07-11-2019, 11:17 AM

If you would have to introduce Kyle in a GL movie, how would you guys do it?

**Starter Set** · 07-11-2019, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by SebastianS

If you would have to introduce Kyle in a GL movie, how would you guys do it?

Well, the whole "i'm the last space smurf cause reasons, would you please take that very suspicious green ring Kyle and save the galaxy?" could be done quite easily i think.

You don't even need to explain anything to the audiance at first, Kyle being clueless about what a GL is, we and he learn what we and he need to know as the story progresses.

It could be even easier to set up than the whole pilot thing of Hal.

**WallyWestFlash** · 07-11-2019, 11:42 AM

If this would be the first GL movie without building up the whole GL mythology via Hal, I would make that people don't really know about the GL.

Hal was around but a few years ago he went off into a mission into space and hasn't been back for awhile so people know about the idea of GL but in the distance.

Kyle gets a ring from Ganthet like the original but with a touch of Princess Lia asking Obi Wan for his help and disappers.Kyle takes the ring and goes through the regular super hero rookie learning the ropes story and a viallin pops up that he fights.

At the end though he decides to go into space to find Hal to find out what happened from picking up hints and small clues throughout the movie about the GL corps and the bigger mythology that he is a part of.

In the next movie you can introduce and explore with Kyle the rest of the GL story.

**SebastianS** · 07-12-2019, 12:25 AM

I know I am not impartial, but I think that going with Kyle is probably the best way to introduce the GL mythos to a new audience.

**failo.legendkiller** · 07-12-2019, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by WallyWestFlash

If this would be the first GL movie without building up the whole GL mythology via Hal, I would make that people don't really know about the GL.

Hal was around but a few years ago he went off into a mission into space and hasn't been back for awhile so people know about the idea of GL but in the distance.

Kyle gets a ring from Ganthet like the original but with a touch of Princess Lia asking Obi Wan for his help and disappers.Kyle takes the ring and goes through the regular super hero rookie learning the ropes story and a viallin pops up that he fights.

At the end though he decides to go into space to find Hal to find out what happened from picking up hints and small clues throughout the movie about the GL corps and the bigger mythology that he is a part of.

In the next movie you can introduce and explore with Kyle the rest of the GL story.

I would like it! So it'll never happen