Dracula vs Dracula

[master of read]

Oh interesting! Do tell!


And since I found the video, here's King anyway.

No real defense against time stop though.

in aria of sorrow, there is a monster called the chrono mage who can stop time in a small hallway in the inner quarters. it's not very strong and you could kill it with a single hit. he'd just time stop and reset you back at the start of the hall before you can get close. later on, soma gets a soul that basically renders him immune to time freezing. so when you return to the hall with the soul equipped, the mage will tried to stop time but it won't do jack ****, allowing you just walk up to him and kill him, taking his soul.

there is also a boss in the sequel, dawn of sorrow, who uses time slowing and freezing to fight soma. after you beat him, you get his soul which lets you stop time.

and now thinking on it, composite drac would be immune to the world thanks to that soul i mentioned. so that's another knock against him.

[Guy1]

in aria of sorrow, there is a monster called the chrono mage who can stop time in a small hallway in the inner quarters. it's not very strong and you could kill it with a single hit. he'd just time stop and reset you back at the start of the hall before you can get close. later on, soma gets a soul that basically renders him immune to time freezing. so when you return to the hall with the soul equipped, the mage will tried to stop time but it won't do jack ****, allowing you just walk up to him and kill him, taking his soul.

there is also a boss in the sequel, dawn of sorrow, who uses time slowing and freezing to fight soma. after you beat him, you get his soul which lets you stop time.

and now thinking on it, composite drac would be immune to the world thanks to that soul i mentioned. so that's another knock against him.

That is awesome. Thank you man.

[master of read]

Once the Castlevania Anime finally gets rolling, we should keep an eye out for feats to add to the Composite.

anime drac does have some better on-screen feats than his game counter part so it would add a lot to the composite.

also, i know of a bunch of characters who could absolutely murder composite drac. the top tier guys from "toriko" for one.

[master of read]

That is awesome. Thank you man.

np, man.

soma cruz adds a lot since he's literally a playable dracula and the souls he gets from the various monsters he kills makes him a insane foe to deal with.

[Alan2099]

He is literally the avatar of chaos itself as the Dark Lord, and acts as the way for it to interact with reality. Chaos, you know, who created the castle to begin with. Who is the counterpart, and opposite of the God of the entire setting. Who created the universe. The biblical one. Dracula never shows this not all those many times when he creates, and destroys these universes.

That explicitly exist because of him, and can't without him.

You're absolutely right, yes sir.

So, he's an avatar or something and something can use him to interact with the universe. So what does that mean Dracula can actually do? You say he creates and destroys universes, but he kinda doesn't actually do that. The castle itself is defined as a creature of chaos that takes many shapes and forms. There is nothing to suggest that these other worlds aren't just the castle being artistic. Even if they're not that and actually are worlds... where do we see Dracula creating them? Where do we see him destroying them? They could just as easily be a portal t this world of chaos he draws from and opening a portal is hardly a major trick.

[Guy1]

anime drac does have some better on-screen feats than his game counter part so it would add a lot to the composite.

also, i know of a bunch of characters who could absolutely murder composite drac. the top tier guys from "toriko" for one.

There's also D who's just...just unfair is what he is.

[master of read]

There's also D who's just...just unfair is what he is.

dude. that's not fair and you know it.

drac would RUN from jiren.

[master of read]

So, he's an avatar or something and something can use him to interact with the universe. So what does that mean Dracula can actually do? You say he creates and destroys universes, but he kinda doesn't actually do that. The castle itself is defined as a creature of chaos that takes many shapes and forms. There is nothing to suggest that these other worlds aren't just the castle being artistic. Even if they're not that and actually are worlds... where do we see Dracula creating them? Where do we see him destroying them? They could just as easily be a portal t this world of chaos he draws from and opening a portal is hardly a major trick.

hence the point of my argument.

as far as on screen feats, drac is just shown to be a "stronger, harder to kill type of vamp" as oppose to a "all powerful avatar of darkness".

and even if he was, that would put the belmonts and pretty much anyone who has fought dracula on a level of power that's.......just not right.

[Nightmare Pet]

So, he's an avatar or something and something can use him to interact with the universe. So what does that mean Dracula can actually do? You say he creates and destroys universes, but he kinda doesn't actually do that.

He does, and I showed you. Just look at the last page.

The castle itself is defined as a creature of chaos that takes many shapes and forms. There is nothing to suggest that these other worlds aren't just the castle being artistic. Even if they're not that and actually are worlds... where do we see Dracula creating them? Where do we see him destroying them? They could just as easily be a portal t this world of chaos he draws from and opening a portal is hardly a major trick.

Where is it ever suggested that these worlds, and universes are fabrications? I will answer that question for you. They never are. They are specified to exist because of his dark power. They disappear without him when he is destroyed. And we see them disappear when Chaos is defeated by Soma Cruz. There is a direct correlation, and it is especially blatant in Dracula X. When Dracula does so in the middle of his fight with Richter. That's not the only time he does this in a fight either. He is notorious for it.

[Nightmare Pet]

hence the point of my argument.

as far as on screen feats, drac is just shown to be a "stronger, harder to kill type of vamp" as oppose to a "all powerful avatar of darkness".

and even if he was, that would put the belmonts and pretty much anyone who has fought dracula on a level of power that's.......just not right.

You are literally arguing from disbelief despite the fact I have provided mountains of evidence. Yes, and that includes feats. As well as context. Databooks. As well as direct excerpts from the light novels. As well as many scripted instances that are beyond the player's control, or input. You see, this is the problem here. You debate according to preconceived notions of how powerful someone should be without being aware of how powerful they actually are according to what they have done. What is clarified by the narrative. Just because you think there are no feats. When there are.

[Alan2099]

Where is it ever suggested that these worlds, and universes are fabrications?

When does it say they're anything BUT part of the castle?

There is a direct correlation, and it is especially blatant in Dracula X. When Dracula does so in the middle of his fight with Richter.

All Drac does in Dracula X is teleport around the room and shoot fireballs. Then he turns into a devil looking thing. When you beat him, the sun comes out. There's no dimension shifting or reality creating there.

[master of read]

You are literally arguing from disbelief despite the fact I have provided mountains of evidence. Yes, and that includes feats. As well as context. Databooks. As well as direct excerpts from the light novels. As well as many scripted instances that are beyond the player's control, or input. You see, this is the problem here. You debate according to preconceived notions of how powerful someone should be without being aware of how powerful they actually are according to what they have done. What is clarified by the narrative. Just because you think there are no feats. When there are.

we don't use databooks around here. just high end consistent feats. sadly for you, using on screen feats for dracula, he's not the "multiversal being" you are telling us he is. the statements and the feats don't match up. and when that happens, he take the feats over the statements everytime.

but how about this? dracula fights toriko. who do you think wins?

[master of read]

When does it say they're anything BUT part of the castle?


All Drac does in Dracula X is teleport around the room and shoot fireballs. Then he turns into a devil looking thing. When you beat him, the sun comes out. There's no dimension shifting or reality creating there.

i think it's best we level dracula X alone. because of...........reasons.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

All Drac does in Dracula X is teleport around the room and shoot fireballs. Then he turns into a devil looking thing. When you beat him, the sun comes out. There's no dimension shifting or reality creating there.

Storm would disagree. It takes a lot of powerful ... er ... power, to change the weather.

[Alan2099]

If we're willing to say that it was definitely 100% Dracula that changed the weather to block out the sun that doesn't put him anymore powerful than classic novel Dracula, who could also conjurer the storms.

That's just classic Dracula powers right there. Granted, they aren't used as often as "turn to bat" or "turn to mist" but they're still there. Typiung that, I also had to stop and think for a while as to whether or not Castlevania Dracula had ever shown the ability to turn into a bat.