Nah, my friend. Until the book comes out and there are actual pages of how the characters are interacting we don't really know anything. Duggan gave us the premise to his book that is it.
Could all the members of the team swear not to kill unless their monsters or something while they hold the Avenger name? Sure. But right now we do not know that yet.
Being a hot-head is not a Black or intrinsic Black troupe. Redheads has the same label. If Rose wants to go down that road I would like to hear his thoughts on what he believes "Scary Black Man" troupes are. Or he can choose to leave that line of discussion alone. Either way the work around is pretty.
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....man what? The premise of the book is what it's about. I don't need to see all of the Rocky movies to know what they're about. The team assembled to deal with magical threats, that has always been up Blade's alley, even if he has to kill humans. I don't know why you're creating a hardstance on something that has never been an issue for Blade.
Also just because a trope isn't unique to a particular demographic doesn't mean it's not a trope. You can find books written about the "angry black man" stereotype.
I'm taking a hard stance because I would like to see Blade as a mainstream character that is on a level of the current way Black Panther is being portrayed as opposed to how he has been used in the past. Just going by history there are certain that characters have and do that get's them to a place where they can get away with murder. Funny enough being known as a mass murder is rarely one of them.
The premise of the book tells you what the book is about. It doesn't tell you what is actually in the book. It doesn't tell you Billy shot Sally. It doesn't tell you that Jan robbed Joe.
Being a "hot head" and being an "angry black man" are two different things. Not only that but they are discussed differently in the context of cultural studies, terms used for discrimination and so on.
Also just because a trope isn't unique to a particular demographic doesn't mean it's not a trope. You can find books written about the "angry black man" stereotype.
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I'm not sure what more you want. Technically, Blade fits. What makes Blade problematic would be more how often his black history isn't always addressed. Of course a man of his age would have experienced a lot of racism, hut we don't hear about it.
Yeah, if he didn't have this for him, I feel like he'd be pretty flat
And killing people isn't a black intrinsic trope. Yet you seem to be afraid that if he starts doing that (never mind he's killed humans before according to another poster) he'll become a scary black man stereotype.
There is one thing and one thing only that will limit or outright stop Blade's appearances. It begins with an "r" and ends with an "m".
I highly doubt Blade (or any black character from the Big 2) has a chance of being on the same level as Black Panther.
So what's your issue? You don't know what the book is about yet you're so sure that Blade being in it would hurt his chances of success. Never mind that one of the characters in that book has three movies and a t.v show to his name and another had a highly successful movie.The premise of the book tells you what the book is about. It doesn't tell you what is actually in the book. It doesn't tell you Billy shot Sally. It doesn't tell you that Jan robbed Joe.
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Yeah, that's what I mean, though. I would like to see him be just a bit more racially conscious. I mean, given his age, he should remember when things were worse. And even in his earliest appearances, there wad the implication that he wasn't taken as seriously because he was the sole black man.
i wonder how different a new live-action version of Blade would be. Snipes has pretty much defined who the character is through his performance. i can't even read the character without hearing his voice/general cadence. maybe he isn't angry at all. all of his interactions with Monica Rambeau, for instance, made him seem more light-hearted. in general, i think he's mostly impatient with other people. he's been around a long time doing what he does. so anyone he interacts with would, comparitively, be an amateur. keep in mind that there are huge gaps in my Blade reading (only the really old stuff and stuff from the 2000s).
The humans he killed in story, again from what I read, were at the point of no other way of dealing with them. The rub lay within the details.
I'm going to assume you don't want anyone to figure this incredibly cryptic message out and ignore it.
Yeah, with that attitude it won't happen. It's also the attitude many immoral people who control these matters would want you to have.
Association can harm anyone. If someone does not understand that then they have lived a pretty privileged life. Also only two characters on that team would be ones a large number of parents would be ok with theme their birthday party after. Wolverine and Venom. Venom because Parents just think "Black Suit Spider-Man" and Wolverine because he appears in regular kid shows where he doesn't kill people in.
What you don't seem to grasp is to be a major character you have to have Mass Appeal. When you get Mass Appeal your past deeds gets "erased" due to the number of content without said character participating in what would be viewed as negative behavior. To gain Mass Appeal you have to be accessible to children on the ready. If Blade becomes Punisher with a sword or associates with Punisher his chances of Mass Appeal go down tremendously due to his lack of material to pull from to say "Well he's not like that normally".
The fact that I'm going out of my way to explain this hopefully signals that I may know what I'm talking about but if not, whatever . My stance is the same. I would prefer Blade stay away from a team like that until he gets more works under his belt but if he doesn't I will still support the character. I just know where he will end up as well.
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remembering isn't always caring, though. Wolverine should be more socially conscious, right? he lived through slavery and the civil rights movement. i'd say that being long lived could make race even less relevant to Blade. he's seen all of humanity's ugliness; enough to write everyone off. he's seen what tribalism leads to. he's also lived abroad and adventured with at least one group composed entirely of black men. i figure that his focus is very me vs them (Blade vs suck heads).
Yes....and you said we didn't know what the book was about, when we do and it fits who Blade is.
Also please articulate the difference between being a "hot headed" black man and being an angry black man. Bonus if you can throw in some of the studies you're referencing.
Either way, Blade has already worked as a government sanctioned contract killer in Vanguard.
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