Birds of Prey Reactions

[Slowpokeking]

Some men need to man up and quit being so sensitive over a movie.

It's not about the movie, it's the movie's crew and supporters try to call others sexists when they dislike it. Or even calling "men this or that".

Tons of other bad movies got much more vicious bash, most of them are starring men. Shouldn't equality apply here?

[The Cool Thatguy]

You are keep ignoring the problem here.

The true problem is rape itself, not being men or women. You are the one who was keep trying to focus on the small problem-gender instead of the rape nature-violence which exist in both gender itself. It will even create new problems when you try to point finger at a group which the majority has nothing to do with it, many of them also help women catch the rapists

To prevent rape, of course we need to bring the whole thing up to the table to study the problem, not to ignore the whole thing and just focus at part of it. It's very easy to get incomplete result and cause problems.

Same thing with women's power thing. You need to understand it in a larger view, otherwise it's just the same(or worse) oppression keep going and switching sides. If you study history there are tons of examples.

Translation:

"Why is everyone paying attention to that mountain when there's a mole hill that needs to be addressed?"

[skyvolt2000]

It's not about the movie, it's the movie's crew and supporters try to call others sexists when they dislike it. Or even calling "men this or that".

Tons of other bad movies got much more vicious bash, most of them are starring men. Shouldn't equality apply here?

Now other bad movies get bashed for STORY CONTENT.

The main folks attacking Birds of Prey-haven't seen the film and don't plan on seeing it.

That is what is irking folks-not folks who saw the film and have an opinion. They have issues with the folks who have not seen and had no plans on seeing it. They are mad because how dare a film be made that is not starring a straight white male.

They are the ones who constantly harass, bully, threaten or whatever-after everyone has moved on.

Who makes nonstop youtube videos trashing MEN films-good or bad? Yet we have seen that constantly done to FEMALES lead projects.

Jokerz79 is saying men need to move on and stop throwing fits because something doesn't star them?

[Slowpokeking]

Translation:

"Why is everyone paying attention to that mountain when there's a mole hill that needs to be addressed?"

Translation:

You need to find the core of the problem, not to point everything simply against one group, it's not going to solve anything. As the history has repeated many times.

[Slowpokeking]

Now other bad movies get bashed for STORY CONTENT.

NO, many movies got bashed for all the dumb reasons, lots of them are laughable. Many of these movies are actually quite good.

The main folks attacking Birds of Prey-haven't seen the film and don't plan on seeing it.

Not really.

That is what is irking folks-not folks who saw the film and have an opinion. They have issues with the folks who have not seen and had no plans on seeing it. They are mad because how dare a film be made that is not starring a straight white male.

You are making a straw man here. Many of these ppl have liked female/black/other ppl starring movies. Almost all of my favorite movies are female lead or have strong important females. Again THIS is why ppl are bashing this movie, because supporters are trying to call others sexist or throw whatever they can think of to them.

They are the ones who constantly harass, bully, threaten or whatever-after everyone has moved on.

Not really, many of this movie's supporter did what you said.

Who makes nonstop youtube videos trashing MEN films-good or bad? Yet we have seen that constantly done to FEMALES lead projects.

Eh tons of them? Like Adam Sandler, like Nicolas Cage has been bashed for ages and some of those movies were not that bad?

Most of the heavily attacked movies are male lead. Many female lead movies were well received.


Sure I did want to until some ppl trying to bring up the "men bad" issue again.

[kjn]

It's not about the movie, it's the movie's crew and supporters try to call others sexists when they dislike it. Or even calling "men this or that".

Tons of other bad movies got much more vicious bash, most of them are starring men. Shouldn't equality apply here?

Ford v Ferrari (budget $98M): opening weekend $31M (32% of budget), worldwide $226M 230% of budget).

Birds of Prey (budget $85): opening weekend $33M (39% of budget), worldwide $202 (238% of budget)

Some of the headlines:

Variety:

'Ford v Ferrari' Zooms Past $200 Million at Box Office

Esquire Middle East

Ford v Ferrari roars to box office success

Forbes

Box Office: ‘Ford V Ferrari’ Is The Hit Fox And Disney Both Needed

Businessinsider

'Birds of Prey' has a soft opening weekend at the box office

Deadline

'Birds Of Prey' Box Office Plummets With $33.5M Opening

Variety

'Birds of Prey' Box Office Opening Low at $34 Million

So why the different languages and expectations for the two movies?

[Username taken]

A sexist troll is unhappy with a female led movie.

Funny enough, i didn’t want to go down that road but it’s looking increasingly like sexism.

I mean, there’s no way to describe downplaying woman’s issues beyond sexism. More-so equating said issues to non-existent issues in men (like reproductive rights or being stripped of basic human rights because of gender).

It’s becoming increasingly clear that a lot of people that had problems with Birds of Prey simply have a problem with women’s rights.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Funny enough, i didn’t want to go down that road but it’s looking increasingly like sexism.

I mean, there’s no way to describe downplaying woman’s issues beyond sexism. More-so equating said issues to non-existent issues in men (like reproductive rights or being stripped of basic human rights because of gender).

It’s becoming increasingly clear that a lot of people that had problems with Birds of Prey simply have a problem with women’s rights.

A lot, yes. But certainly not all

[Username taken]

A lot, yes. But certainly not all

Yeah, not everyone that has a problem with it is sexist. It's important to note this.

I personally didn't like the movie at all. It was kind of boring.

But this has nothing to do with politics or feminism at all.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Ford v Ferrari (budget $98M): opening weekend $31M (32% of budget), worldwide $226M 230% of budget).

Birds of Prey (budget $85): opening weekend $33M (39% of budget), worldwide $202 (238% of budget)

So why the different languages and expectations for the two movies?

While sexism is a possible answer, it's worth remembering that BoP has different expectations attached to it, and would have regardless.

Even if it were not a comic book movie, a sequel would would be expected, whereas Ford v Ferrari is a one and done.

More than that, BoP might have the expectation of upholding/maintaining the shared canon of the DCU, something not an issue with Ford. And BoP is used as a barometer of how well Time Warner's DC projects are doing

[Slowpokeking]

Ford v Ferrari (budget $98M): opening weekend $31M (32% of budget), worldwide $226M 230% of budget).

Birds of Prey (budget $85): opening weekend $33M (39% of budget), worldwide $202 (238% of budget)

Some of the headlines:

Variety:


Esquire Middle East


Forbes


Businessinsider


Deadline


Variety


So why the different languages and expectations for the two movies?

We have been over with it already.

FvF has lower expectation yet higher box office especially domestic office. It also got a weaker competition in the ongoing week. It was also expected to have a higher multiplier effect because of the time was different. It has nothing to do with sexism. Get over it.

I can use blame from the the starring cast to say ppl hate men because Hayden has receive much more **** than Portman yet she wasn't better in the movie at all. Is it right? No.

[Slowpokeking]

Funny enough, i didn’t want to go down that road but it’s looking increasingly like sexism.

I mean, there’s no way to describe downplaying woman’s issues beyond sexism. More-so equating said issues to non-existent issues in men (like reproductive rights or being stripped of basic human rights because of gender).

It’s becoming increasingly clear that a lot of people that had problems with Birds of Prey simply have a problem with women’s rights.

Women's issues is caused by many problems, the last thing is to simply attack men for it. Simply demonize men is not going to solve it. Many men are helping women with those issues, do you know? Do you also know that many of them don't want to be represented as "sexist" or bland baddies like those BoP male characters?

Actually if ppl want equal rights, then the first thing they need to do is treat movies by stop calling ppl for sexists simply because they don't like this movie.

And you know what? When you speak of women's rights, I don't think it's a good idea to cast Harley Quinn instead of Barbara Gordon as the main character and push the rest of the members aside. Barbara is a much better figure as women's role model than Harley Quinn and she was the founder of BoP. Do you really think it's about women's rights and not Margot Robbie's own ambition by put the real BoP members aside?

Also I don't think someone like Ewan, who had dumped his wife and 4 daughters to go for MEW should teach me about how to respect women.

[Slowpokeking]

Again if the supporters are not pleased with the bashing and bringing up all those political issue, they need to stop calling others stuff like "sexists" for it.

[Frobisher]

When’s someone going to do something for men for once though?

[The Cool Thatguy]

When’s someone going to do something for men for once though?

I know, right? All issues matter!