Originally Posted by
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The shitty racebender crowd move the goal posts to whatever lane they feel will have traction, there opinions mean nothing. This whole argument is like an onion, there are layers. At the core for me is- does anything, work, in comics at this point? Is ANYTHING flying off the shelves? Has that EVER been the justification for anything? The 2021 present ain't the boon for comic books in terms of popularity- by any means, so any argument for equating sales with popularity is weak af. The market is uber-niche at this point. If not for the explosion of variants I'm hesitant to even guess where the industry even is. This perception of a studio production becoming a popular comic pipeline is a falsehood imo. It doesn't work that way, and I can argue it never did. Or at least as tough as people purported it too, only with a couple of outliers. It's just another hurdle argument put in front of Black folks to justify any and all projects.
Look at the MCU, for as big as it has been, those characters don't make much of a wave on the comics side. Wandavision was a whole thing and there was no comic with it right? I operate on the collector side and I know more than a couple cats who flipped WCA #45 for a couple hundred bucks a piece, raw. A freakin dollar bin book for the last 20+ years. That's the comic market with the gains, sparse as they might be.
Also Wanda is white, superwhite and she didn't even have a book to sell far as I know, so with the poc characters the hit is going to be that much harder. That's before you get into the bind that is the Milestone characters and the constant cock tease that in 2021, 2022 or forward, hell go backward as far as you'd like, and there is zero traction for the Dakotaverse (understandably the lawsuit situation). There is good number of IP to go around and none of it is dependent on a monthly. I feel the biggest movers in the monthly comic system are the independents anyway, that is where a huge chunk of the market is when you look at what books are on the shelves.
IKR, I have a cousin who's not even a comic fan but ROCKS with this new Superman show. I tried, It's still CW and their house style bothers the fk out of me. I hadn't heard about a John Henry drop until Killerbee just posted it. Man, is any of that going to get me to come back to the CW cape shows? Not really, I can't get the time back from those terrible seasons of Arrow or those seasons of Flash where it meandered on and on. I haven't even gotten through 80% all of Black Lightning and I like BL. Maybe it's the binging format that has spoiled me, maybe it's the quality and familiarity of the D+ shit but I didn't miss an episode of the CapFalconBucky show.
BlackBatguy looks cool but ultimately it's fruit from the same corny CW tree. I may try to catch dude in the role but I'm one who is waiting on Icon, waiting on Static. Maybe even a Steel project, I don't know. There is something real to putting the existing IP poc in QUALITY projects that can and will lead to other things. We've seen it, if that continues to happen and some of these other arguments likely fall away.