Son, I'm a pro corbyn life long labourite. I'm actually a progressive, someone who wants to help people. Your a whiner having a tantrum because you didnt get your way and are now spouting utter turds whilst hoping Biden loses and people get hurt, cause that'll teach em Bernies way was best.
Biden may not be your guy, he's not my guy either. But the numbers are here. Bernies lost. Now you can try and unseat Trump and help make things better by then pushing for more progressive legislation....or you can cause division, spout lies and spread conspiracy theories then throw your vote away on a 3rd party.
Come back when you can act your age, until then let the adults talk
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It's even worse when you consider Bernie isn't acting like that. His reluctance to take heavy shots at Biden show that Bernie is really only staying in to keep his message in the public eye rather than any belief he can win. Too bad his Stans are so enraged they can't even listen to the guy they claim to support.
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And, like in 2016, they'll pout like children, then either protest vote for some third party unknown or simply stay home. At this point, Sanders has overstayed his welcome, I suspect he'll stick it out to the bitter end rather than admit his race is over and bow out. Sure, he has every right to stay, however, that won't help the party unify behind Biden, but then, I suspect that was never Bernie's intention.
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I can actually understand how some people, who can't go to work or have to shut down their business, might see this as overblown if they're not directly effected by this. I'm not DEFENDING it... but I understand it.
If you're sitting at home not able to earn any money to pay the bills, at a certain point you have to wonder if this is worth it. Again, I'm not agreeing with that mentality necessarily... but not getting paid will start hurting you and it's natural to wonder if it's worth it. The longer this drags on and the more people are unable to generate income for their families, I'll wager the "overblown" mentality potentially will grow unless the death toll really starts to climb. It's be this weird trade off between fear of the discease vs fear of not being able to food on your table.
For the record, I'm not in the "this is overblown camp." If they're doing this right, it should feel like things are overblown. It's when you're not feeling that it is where they're probably not doing enough.
Course, the fact that Bernie hasn't dropped yet effectively is giving the green light for his followers to continue to campaign against Biden. Until he drops, it will be next to impossible for the party to unify, and presumably he knows it. Not knocking him for wanting to continue with his message if he feels it's needed... but at the same time I think he bears some responsibility for his followers continuing to attack Biden. As of now they are still opponents and will continue to be untili he drops. Until he gives up, there's no reason for his followers to.
Predictably, there have been people who've wondered why all the doom and gloom over COVID-19 when the regular flu has already killed thousands. Of course, there's vaccines for the flu and everyone knows when it comes and goes, with coronavirus, there's no way of knowing how long it'll last, and, more importantly....NO CURE.
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Same with me. Wisconsin Governor just shut down most every business, including my theater job. I got the word at 3 and was told to immediately stop selling tickets. Wish they just announced this early in the day so we didn't have to deal with a final hour rush of telling people to go away.
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You have a strangely myopic view of what a “centrist” is. And I know that part of comes from watching TYT, which reinforces this brand of hate and resentment towards those who might slightly disagree with you on something as little as approach. I know this doesn’t apply to you, but eventually I realized that they were attacking me. Me—a college student who was taking on mountains of student loan debt to get an education. They were attacking me because I didn’t agree that a revolution was possible or the most practical solution to get us where we needed to go. I felt like it was clear in 2016 what they were willing to sacrifice to get what they wanted. These so-called progressives were actually happy when Trump won—so they could say “I told you so” and hope that, next time around, we’d listen to them then and then they’d get this revolution that instantly fixed our country’s problems.
The problem with your slur is that very few people who prefer Biden—or, heck, are happy to set aside their ego to vote for him over Trump (not begrudgingly, as you are, but legitimately happy to have any opportunity to see Trump go)—are not in the center of the political spectrum. People like me actually agree with Sanders and that we should be working towards universal health care and child care. We should have a more robust safety net. But Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither will these programs. But if we can do some positive good, and if Obama hadn’t been abandoned to fight alone from 2011 on, we would’ve had positive moves towards this goal more consistently. I want to make it there the same as you—I just disagree on the idea that Sanders can get there right now. We need to move this country politically to where it is actually and that means winning at state and local levels. That means making progress where we can right now to alleviate suffering of people and prevent discrimination while that slow crawl towards that slow revolution happens. And, someday, we will get there. But Sanders being in office won’t get us these things. Indeed, I fear it will be counterproductive. No amount of whining will convince actual centrists and moderates, whose jobs depend on not moving too far to the left to cost them their seats in re-election, that they should vote for health care bills that Sanders wants. You can appropriately label them centrists or call them corporatists, but they will be far more concerned with what their constituents call them and it will be more like “socialist” (in a bad way) if they vote for Sanders’ programs. Too many districts are too far to the right to get what Sanders wants right now. But we can make real progress towards these goals. Don’t let the fact that we should be doing better be the enemy of doing something better right NOW.
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