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    Falcon was a mutant

    Madeylne was a clone and that rule was brought in for Cable
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Falcon was a mutant

    Madeylne was a clone and that rule was brought in for Cable
    Oh yeah, people keep forgetting Cable isn't actually Jean's son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Oh yeah, people keep forgetting Cable isn't actually Jean's son.
    The younger cable agreed to make the older Cable the prime entity so if kid cable dies they won't ressurect him.

    Also keep in mind Adrienne Frost hasn't been ressurected. As someone pointed out they can be put at the back of the queue indefinitely. Especially given the fact that X-Force is a team of lemmings

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    The younger cable agreed to make the older Cable the prime entity so if kid cable dies they won't ressurect him.

    Also keep in mind Adrienne Frost hasn't been ressurected. As someone pointed out they can be put at the back of the queue indefinitely. Especially given the fact that X-Force is a team of lemmings
    yeah... too bad they haven't rezzed the x-Statix team yet. those guys were great as lemmings!

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    Purple Man is am established character and was actually mentioned in the handbook which you posted. Its not like Editorial or 198 forgot about him. He wasn't listed because he isn't one.

    X-Men 92 is not canon.

    If anything the story in Nate resulted in him being manipulated by Kilgrave and losing confidence by the end of it. Purple Man could have said anything. Regardless he only has one daughter thats a mutant. Him and his kids are mutates. Hence why he was locked up in Devils Reign. He doesn't get amnesty in Krakoa as he is not one.

    Well to answer the thread question Editorial don't consider him one so it is a non issue

    Cells that have been mutagenically altered by a chemical



    They didnt list Mimic either at that time and we now know that he IS indeed one , as per HOXPOX

    And Mimic also had his origin via superscience gas activating his powers

    Ah, so you’re one of those “Editorial is God” types eh ? I wonder , just How does your COGNiTIVE DISSONANCE feel everytime they obviously contradict themselves , which is much more often than not tsk tsk tsk ?! For instance , Jordan White insists repeatedly that John Proudstar cannot be resurrected because he died before Cerebro began recording mutant souls , except for those who got revived during Necrosha (and died again) , BUT 1) Sway and Petra died before John , and they were resurrected , 2) John was one of the Necrosha zombies , and a rather prominent one too , 3) John is also listed as being alive again in the current Krakoa Era (albeit we have not seen him at all yet) in the HandBook profiles in the Swords of X finale special.

    And XMen 92 is an alternate universe , everything is Canon in the Marvel Multiverse !
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    Quote Originally Posted by EldonMaguan View Post
    They didnt list Mimic either at that time and we now know that he IS indeed one , as per HOXPOX

    And Mimic also had his origin via superscience gas activating his powers


    And you’re one of those “Editorial is God” types eh ? I wonder , just How does your COGNiTIVE DISSONANCE feel everytime they obviously contradict themselves tsk tsk tsk ?! For instance , Jordan White insists repeatedly that John Proudstar cannot be resurrected because he died before Cerebro began recording mutant souls , except for those who got revived during Necrosha (and died again) , BUT 1) Sway and Petra died before John , and they were resurrected , 2) John was one of the Necrosha zombies , and a rather prominent one too , 3) John is also listed as being alive again in the current Krakoa Era (albeit we have not seen him at all yet) in the HandBook profiles in the Swords of X finale special. E
    A platypus has a bill...

    That does not mean it is about to grow a set of wings, and become a duck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EldonMaguan View Post
    Purple Man is am established character and was actually mentioned in the handbook which you posted. Its not like Editorial or 198 forgot about him. He wasn't listed because he isn't one.

    X-Men 92 is not canon.

    If anything the story in Nate resulted in him being manipulated by Kilgrave and losing confidence by the end of it. Purple Man could have said anything. Regardless he only has one daughter thats a mutant. Him and his kids are mutates. Hence why he was locked up in Devils Reign. He doesn't get amnesty in Krakoa as he is not one.

    Well to answer the thread question Editorial don't consider him one so it is a non issue

    Cells that have been mutagenically altered by a chemical



    They didnt list Mimic either at that time and we now know that he IS indeed one , as per HOXPOX

    And Mimic also had his origin via superscience gas activating his powers

    Ah, so you’re one of those “Editorial is God” types eh ? I wonder , just How does your COGNiTIVE DISSONANCE feel everytime they obviously contradict themselves tsk tsk tsk ?! For instance , Jordan White insists repeatedly that John Proudstar cannot be resurrected because he died before Cerebro began recording mutant souls , except for those who got revived during Necrosha (and died again) , BUT 1) Sway and Petra died before John , and they were resurrected , 2) John was one of the Necrosha zombies , and a rather prominent one too , 3) John is also listed as being alive again in the current Krakoa Era (albeit we have not seen him at all yet) in the HandBook profiles in the Swords of X finale special.

    And XMen 92 is an alternate universe , everything is Canon in the Marvel Multiverse !
    Mimic was stated to not be a mutant for decades. Even during Dark X-Men it was mentioned over and over. HoXPoX retconning him into being a mutant is great. Kilgrave however is not one as he was not granted amnesty like everyone. So if anything this argument works against you. It shows that hes still not a mutant.

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    A platypus has a bill...

    That does not mean it is about to grow a set of wings, and become a duck.


    Ah , but both Mimic and Killgrave are cishet White male humans , while platypuses and ducks are from different classes in the animal kingdom , platypus is a monotreme (halfway between mammal and bird) while duck is full bird proper
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    Cloak and Dagger went through a year of fluctuating between mutant and mutate and at the end of the year ended up not being mutants. At present they're still not mutants

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    Quote Originally Posted by EldonMaguan View Post
    Ah , but both Mimic and Killgrave are cishet White male humans , while platypuses and ducks are from different classes in the animal kingdom , platypus is a monotreme (halfway between mammal and bird) while duck is full bird proper
    That has right around "Zero..." to do with the basic reality that...

    - Not everything with a metaphorical bill is a mutant.

    - Everything with a metaphorical bill along with a set of wings is a mutant.

    Again, pretty basic stuff.

    As of right now?

    Killgrave, maybe, has a bill.

    He sure doesn't have a set of wings.

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    I remember when Quake was a mutant but actually turned out to be an Inhuman.

    Maybe they should ressurect the Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder

    Or Santa Claus who is actually more of a mutant then Squirrel Girl these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Maybe they should ressurect the Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder
    Ah, right, that was a thing...

    We're better off not talking about Beyonder anyways lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    It's phenomenal, pick it up

    Devil's Reign is great as well, it's Dark reign done right and the art is the best in the industry.On par w/ Pepe IMO
    Sweet, I'll check it out. Amazing how Daredevil is almost always able to maintain high quality. **side eyes all the trash X-books**.

    Any other recs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I remember when Quake was a mutant but actually turned out to be an Inhuman.

    Maybe they should ressurect the Inhuman-Mutant Beyonder

    Or Santa Claus who is actually more of a mutant then Squirrel Girl these days
    Quake was the powered child of a mutate like most of the secret warriors she was never considered a mutant.
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    It’s a rather moot point. Killgrave’s healing is on or with Deadpool, so he’d have pulled himself back together by the time X-factor noticed his death

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