James Gunn dropped from GOTG 3

[Dum Dum Dugan]

Comparing Silverman and Gunn is like comparing apples and oranges.

Silverman made one pedo tweet.
Gunn made over two dozen pedo and rape tweets spanning three years.

Twitter isn't the only place she's made jokes about it.

Though it's not like it takes more than a single tweet to get you fired.

[Raiders]

Twitter isn't the only place she's made jokes about it.

Where else?

[Carabas]

If we're talking purely super hero movies, at this point it's fairly justifiable to give Disney the benefit of the doubt over WB. Ultimately the end results of their efforts pretty much speak for themselves at this point. I'm not even talking movie quality .. that's subjective. But looking at the bottom line, Disney has bragging rights and it does for a good reason.

Disney doesn't make superhero movies. Marvel Studios and Pixar do, but they're not the same as Disney.
And Marvel Studios wouldn't have let go of Gunn in a million years over this. They're kinda screwed now as Gunn wasn't just a director but also one of the main architects of the MCU.

[Jokerz79]

If this wasn't a controversy until Disney fired him then why did Gunn put out a 5 point apology before Disney fired? The Wrap released an article about it before the firing this was in the Public eye and growing when Disney fired him that's why they fired him.

Honestly outside of here and Twitter everywhere else online and in real life the general response I see is people once learning who Cernovich is they think he's disgusting but still agree with Disney letting Gunn go.

[Dum Dum Dugan]

Where else?

Her routine in the Aristocrats.

There was this episode on her show, along with other offensive stuff that would get her raked over the coals today.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/6gv3fq...creepy-van-guy
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/d5tkmb...rah-s-good-van
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/66u7us...in-the-bad-van

[Dum Dum Dugan]

If this wasn't a controversy until Disney fired him then why did Gunn put out a 5 point apology before Disney fired? The Wrap released an article about it before the firing this was in the Public eye and growing when Disney fired him that's why they fired him.

Honestly outside of here and Twitter everywhere else online and in real life the general response I see is people once learning who Cernovich is they think he's disgusting but still agree with Disney letting Gunn go.

There were also articles about Silverman's tweet and her response.

[Jokerz79]

Disney doesn't make superhero movies. Marvel Studios and Pixar do, but they're not the same as Disney.
And Marvel Studios wouldn't have let go of Gunn in a million years over this. They're kinda screwed now as Gunn wasn't just a director but also one of the main architects of the MCU.

I'm sorry but this is over dramatizing Gunn's place in Marvel Studios he's not Feige that would be that kind of blow. Gunn arguably did more for Guardians of the Galaxy than anyone outside their original creators. He also was probably going to be part of the developing the cosmic side of the MCU but with the X-Men and FF coming home who knows how much of that is changing. In truth this is a blow but no worse than losing Joss Whedon who also played a big part in shaping the early MCU.

[Kevinroc]

I'm not saying you know less about the situation because you have less authority ... I'm saying you know less about the situation than Disney because frankly the situation has absolutely nothing to do with you.

Networks, stock holders, advertisers won't voice their concerns to you more or any other random person surfing the web. They will voice them to Disney because that's the obvious thing to do.

Just to flip the question, is there a reason why I or anyone else would assume you know more about the situation than Disney? Or are we operating from the argument of lack of authority, where we should just magically assume you know than them because they are in a position of authority?

You absolutely are using an "argument from authority" logical fallacy. And you absolutely are using it to try to shut down any discussion that questions Disney's position.

[Jokerz79]

There were also articles about Silverman's tweet and her response.

The Public isn't latching on to it that's the difference it's the controversy not the actions that get people fired in Hollywood.

[Kevinroc]

I'm sorry but this is over dramatizing Gunn's place in Marvel Studios he's not Feige that would be that kind of blow. Gunn arguably did more for Guardians of the Galaxy than anyone outside their original creators. He also was probably going to be part of the developing the cosmic side of the MCU but with the X-Men and FF coming home who knows how much of that is changing. In truth this is a blow but no worse than losing Joss Whedon who also played a big part in shaping the early MCU.

Whedon wanted to leave. Gunn was forced out because Disney fell for a scam from a convicted rapist conspiracy nut.

There's a difference.

[Carabas]

I'm sorry but this is over dramatizing Gunn's place in Marvel Studios he's not Feige that would be that kind of blow. Gunn arguably did more for Guardians of the Galaxy than anyone outside their original creators. He also was probably going to be part of the developing the cosmic side of the MCU but with the X-Men and FF coming home who knows how much of that is changing. In truth this is a blow but no worse than losing Joss Whedon who also played a big part in shaping the early MCU.

You don't think that the guy developing the cosmic side of the universe could be considered a main architect of the MCU? Or that this guy wouldn't be the one of the people most likely to develop the FF?

[Jokerz79]

Whedon wanted to leave. Gunn was forced out because Disney fell for a scam from a convicted rapist conspiracy nut.

There's a difference.

I wasn't comparing their leaving Marvel Studios but their impact on the MCU.

[Dum Dum Dugan]

The Public isn't latching on to it that's the difference it's the controversy not the actions that get people fired in Hollywood.

It didn't blow up until Disney fired him.

[Jokerz79]

You don't think that the guy developing the cosmic side of the universe could be considered a main architect of the MCU? Or that this guy wouldn't be the one of the people most likely to develop the FF?

No I seriously don't just like the guy who developed the Avengers didn't hurt not being part of Infinity War.

[XPac]

You absolutely are using an "argument from authority" logical fallacy. And you absolutely are using it to try to shut down any discussion that questions Disney's position.

I'm not trying to shut down discussion questioning Disney's position. I'm just trying to shut down the fallacy that you somehow have more access to the situation than Disney does.