This Changes Everything: Spider-Man's Importance to the Marvel Cinematic Universe

[MichaelC]

So here's the next big question: could Spider-Man be a catalyst for Civil War? I mean, you've got a world where heroes are already working with goverment agencies and are publicly known, and then this smartass kid shows up who refuses to reveal himself and is getting really bad press. I'd much rather see Spidey refusing to make hismelf known than what we got in the 616. Also, it would be awesome to see Tony Stark understimate Spidey and get owned because of his hubris.

That would be completely awful. One of the best things about the movies is that Stark doesn't get demonized or jobbed out to pump up guys like Spider-Man. I would hate to see the movies adopt that nauseating practice from the comics.

[Ben K.]

I like Miles' comic well enough thanks to an entertaining supporting cast but the character himself is quite boring. He feels safely corporate with none of the foibles or iconic character traits of Parker.

I'd cast a black Parker with that character before adapting Miles.

[Goggindowner]

Personally, I'd like to see them go with Miles over Peter.

The Peter story has been done to death on film at this point. Whether or not Marvel was in control of those films makes no difference at all, the general audiences don't know or care about what movies exist in shared universes or are owned by this company or that. It's all just superheroes to them, and telling Peter Parker's origin for the fourth time in fifteen years is going to be a tough sell, especially since the most recent origin is less than four years old.

And lets be honest here, Marvel hasn't exactly stuck to the history of their comics in drawing on material for the movies. We are getting an Ant-Man movie that only pays homage to Hank Pym, who looks to serve as the old mentor role in the movie. A legacy character is the star. Captain Marvel is being started off with Carol Danvers in the role, which means they skipped six others characters, including the original and his son, to get to the character they wanted. Do we really expect them to pay respects to those previous characters? And then not to mention that pretty much every character in Guardians was NOTHING like their comic book version.

Simple fact is, a Miles Morales lead Spiderman film will either succeed or fail based solely on how well the movie is made, from the acting to the writing to the marketing and so on. The history of the comics character and the popularity of the comics character don't indicate what movie is going to do well in the box office. Not by a long shot. Guardians of the Galaxy is the perfect example of this. Not to mention how relatively poorly the last Spiderman movie did. If Peter Parker alone could sell tickets, that movie would have done better than it did.

[AJBopp]

What's with all the assumptions that the next Spiderman movie is going to be a rebooted origin flick? The only relevant parts of his origin are getting bitten by a spider and uncle Ben's death. Those two aspects have been told reasonably consistently, and there's no reason to suppose they'll feel the need to do it again.

It seems kind of silly, too, to try to compare audience familiarity of Peter parker/Spiderman with Peter Quill, Gamora, and Captain Marvel.

[Goggindowner]

What's with all the assumptions that the next Spiderman movie is going to be a rebooted origin flick? The only relevant parts of his origin are getting bitten by a spider and uncle Ben's death. Those two aspects have been told reasonably consistently, and there's no reason to suppose they'll feel the need to do it again.

It seems kind of silly, too, to try to compare audience familiarity of Peter parker/Spiderman with Peter Quill, Gamora, and Captain Marvel.

But that isn't the point. The point is that based on the last two Spiderman movies that Sony put together and released, Peter Parker being Spiderman can't carry a Spiderman movie to the level of even completely foreign characters like those in Guardians. Or past a much less popular comics character in Captain America.

[Goggindowner]

I'm also wondering how Sony's other Spiderman movies are going to play into the MCU. Will Sinister Six or Venom have any impact on Avengers or future Marvel Studios Spiderman films? These things, depending on how they are handled, could get a little messy.

Which leads me to think even more that Miles Morales as the MCU Spiderman makes even more since. Let Peter Parker be the Sony franchise character and let Miles be the MCU character. That way things are kept cleanly separate.

[The Kid]

There's no way Marvel got back Spider-Man to just dump Peter Parker. This is their flagship character we're talking about. I like Miles but Peter is guaranteed to be Spidey in the MCU

[Goggindowner]

There's no way Marvel got back Spider-Man to just dump Peter Parker. This is their flagship character we're talking about. I like Miles but Peter is guaranteed to be Spidey in the MCU

Thing is, I think with the way the deal is structured, Sony still has ultimate creative decision making power.

[5Eyes]

Thing is, I think with the way the deal is structured, Sony still has ultimate creative decision making power.

I think that was there just so Marvel wont do anything to the character that can potentially ruin their future plans for the Spider-man franchise like kill him or something that drastic.. In the end.. the reason why Sony allowed this deal is for Marvel to give them a lesson on how to tell a Spider-man story ..

[Arfguy]

I think that was there just so Marvel wont do anything to the character that can potentially ruin their future plans for the Spider-man franchise like kill him or something that drastic.. In the end.. the reason why Sony allowed this deal is for Marvel to give them a lesson on how to tell a Spider-man story ..

I really hope that's how it plays out. I think Marvel Studios can really excel with their true number one character. Yes, Iron Man has gone up amazingly in popularity, displacing Spidey on the movie front, but long after RDJ moves on, Spider-Man will be more popular than Iron Man.

Sony will ultimately call the shots for the solo movies, which I hope can lead to being more open to suggestions from Marvel Studios.

[WTHIOTina]

Did you guys see this? NOT good news for Spider-Man entering the MCU! What is Marvel thinking?!

http://www.marvel616politics.com/spi...as-an-inhuman/

[AJBopp]

Did you guys see this? NOT good news for Spider-Man entering the MCU! What is Marvel thinking?!

http://www.marvel616politics.com/spi...as-an-inhuman/

No need to follow the April Fool clickbait

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[spacegoatpurrp]

I like Miles' comic well enough thanks to an entertaining supporting cast but the character himself is quite boring. He feels safely corporate with none of the foibles or iconic character traits of Parker.s.

I agree. I would want a Miles Morales movie just to see who they would cast as Ganke. But to be fair he is starting to become more likable and funny in the recent comics like Peter.

[kurenai24]

I agree. I would want a Miles Morales movie just to see who they would cast as Ganke. But to be fair he is starting to become more likable and funny in the recent comics like Peter.

He is already likeable, the real issue is that you and Ben k. don't like Miles b/c he doesn't have the personality of Peter. You yourself just said "he is starting to become more likable and funny in the recent comics like Peter" which is not even true either, cause lawd knows we don't need any spider related characters to be like Peter.

[kurenai24]

Personally, I'd like to see them go with Miles over Peter.

The Peter story has been done to death on film at this point. Whether or not Marvel was in control of those films makes no difference at all, the general audiences don't know or care about what movies exist in shared universes or are owned by this company or that. It's all just superheroes to them, and telling Peter Parker's origin for the fourth time in fifteen years is going to be a tough sell, especially since the most recent origin is less than four years old.

And lets be honest here, Marvel hasn't exactly stuck to the history of their comics in drawing on material for the movies. We are getting an Ant-Man movie that only pays homage to Hank Pym, who looks to serve as the old mentor role in the movie. A legacy character is the star. Captain Marvel is being started off with Carol Danvers in the role, which means they skipped six others characters, including the original and his son, to get to the character they wanted. Do we really expect them to pay respects to those previous characters? And then not to mention that pretty much every character in Guardians was NOTHING like their comic book version.

Simple fact is, a Miles Morales lead Spiderman film will either succeed or fail based solely on how well the movie is made, from the acting to the writing to the marketing and so on. The history of the comics character and the popularity of the comics character don't indicate what movie is going to do well in the box office. Not by a long shot. Guardians of the Galaxy is the perfect example of this. Not to mention how relatively poorly the last Spiderman movie did. If Peter Parker alone could sell tickets, that movie would have done better than it did.

I agree, tbh I'm kind of waiting to see how much better a Peter Parker Spider-Man film from Marvel does in comparison to a Sony one, cause I do think it's the repeated origin story as well as the character that the general audience is tired of seeing. The biggest issue that Sony faces and even Marvel is that Spider-Man is a singular hero (atm). With Fox and the X-Men they have a multitude of characters they can focus on, so it doesn't matter if every 3 to 5 years they put out an X-Men film, b/c they're focusing on different characters with different origin stories, with MCU characters like Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, what happens during those movies effects the overall world Marvel is creating, and b/c there is a continuity, the Captain America, Iron Man, Thor characters not only interact with each other, but have other storylines they can explore not only alone, but together, but with Spider-Man, you're focusing on one person i.e Peter Parker, and the same old stories, and the same old villain i.e Green Goblin.

So I don't think Marvel's Spider-Man solo movie is gonna do good, but seeing him in other movies (i.e Civil War) won't hurt ...well until Sony takes the reigns again.