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    Quote Originally Posted by wano View Post
    Or straight white males don't feel properly represented
    really? how so with characters like beast, gambit, magneto, Maddox, x, angel, cable (cable jr), and nightcrawler there??? please I would like to hear this explained further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    really? how so with characters like beast, gambit, magneto, Maddox, x, angel, cable (cable jr), and nightcrawler there??? please I would like to hear this explained further.
    With so many powerful women around you either have attitude or you become background or the villain of the day, none of those guys have attitude except for magneto but he's back as a mustache twirling villain

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    Or comic books are a dying medium and the steady decline is what we have been seeing for years regardless of who is writing, the artist the objective quality of story etc.

    Uncanny will always sell the same relative to the current comic market. 58,000 is actually on par for it. Put Chuck Austen there you'll get the same sales. Replace out the cast and replace them with z-listers it would be the same. Replace them with Skrulls who are all wasps or diverse in race sexual orientation etc and you'd get the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    really? how so with characters like beast, gambit, magneto, Maddox, x, angel, cable (cable jr), and nightcrawler there??? please I would like to hear this explained further.
    It's a joke.This should explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wano View Post
    With so many powerful women around you either have attitude or you become background or the villain of the day, none of those guys have attitude except for magneto but he's back as a mustache twirling villain
    cable jr, x, maddox most definitely have attitude. angel does too factoring in archangel
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    lmao stop arguing with that victimhood champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Or comic books are a dying medium and the steady decline is what we have been seeing for years regardless of who is writing, the artist the objective quality of story etc.

    Uncanny will always sell the same relative to the current comic market. 58,000 is actually on par for it. Put Chuck Austen there you'll get the same sales. Replace out the cast and replace them with z-listers it would be the same. Replace them with Skrulls who are all wasps or diverse in race sexual orientation etc and you'd get the same thing.
    batman, walking dead, spiderman deadpool books would disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by AHRNIHAL View Post
    It's a joke.This should explain it.
    lolol I dont think you know wano well if u thought it was a joke lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    batman, walking dead, spiderman deadpool books would disagree.



    lolol I dont think you know who well if u thought it was a joke lol
    You realise Batman used to sell much more then Uncanny ten years ago. Batman's sales were used as an index to calculate the sales of other comics because they were considered consistent relative to the market. When Uncanny was selling 90,000 under Austen Batman was doing significantly more. So no comic books as a whole are dying

    Why is it dying well half this board consist of pirates. And other mediums of entertainment have seen their stock rise.

    http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...3/2003-08.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    You realise Batman used to sell much more then Uncanny ten years ago. Batman's sales were used as an index to calculate the sales of other comics because they were considered consistent relative to the market. When Uncanny was selling 90,000 under Austen Batman was doing significantly more. So no comic books as a whole are dying

    Why is it dying well half this board consist of pirates. And other mediums of entertainment have seen their stock rise.

    http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...3/2003-08.html
    I like how you conveniently use Hush to prove your point. Before and after that storyline the main X-books and Ultimate sold better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    I like how you conveniently use Hush to prove your point. Before and after that storyline the main X-books and Ultimate sold better.
    I just picked a random year from Chuck Austen's X-Men. What also should be factored in is the $3.99 vs $2.99 change.

    Uncanny has been consistent in sales despite the overall steady decline in the market regardless of writer, team or artist.
    Kierom Gillens X-Men was the best selling non-event ongoing at Marvel. It was still sitting around 60,000 despite that

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    iceman sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    You realise Batman used to sell much more then Uncanny ten years ago. Batman's sales were used as an index to calculate the sales of other comics because they were considered consistent relative to the market. When Uncanny was selling 90,000 under Austen Batman was doing significantly more. So no comic books as a whole are dying

    Why is it dying well half this bored consist of pirates. And other mediums of entertainment have seen their stock rise.
    pirating is problem I would agree. but even still the xmen stories are repetitive and nearly as good as the older stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    pirating is problem I would agree. but even still the xmen stories are repetitive and nearly as good as the older stories.
    Have you read Morrison's X-Men manifesto? He says the same thing. He says the X-Men is stuck in a rut of circular story telling and his intentions were to break the cycle. They went back yes. But we knew that already. The older stories were better argument is why the new writers are doing homage to them.

    Pirating is one issue. The medium as a whole dying is another. Then there's distribution and why manga can sell incredibly well vs why comics can't do those numbers

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    Man, I wonder what's behind the seeming decline of the X-line in a growing industry? Is it movie conspiracies and Marvel trying to make themselves less money? Is it the lack of MP3 players that bump trap remixes of the 90's theme in every issue? Was it the lack of X-Clops? The teams? The brand and franchise itself no longer mattering? Gee whiz, what could it be? Surely not the handing of the franchise over to an iffy editor who made many bad casting decisions and editorial requests with a spotty quality control history that's led to the decline of other flagship franchises and the death of an entire imprint before, right?

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