So in a somewhat private debate I'm in, we're all discussing um... energy and power principles labeled as "true" and "false" quintessence force or energy. My buddies define this as the power to either "generate/create" energy, or the ability to wield/manipulate a source of energy. "True" quintessence energy is drawn from an internally generated source, the power to "create" one's own energy. "False" quintessence energy is power drawn from an external source, manipulation of existing energy, and recycling and renewing existing energy.
In said debate concerning... a project many, many fans are participating in, this issue of "quintessence" comes up in regards to the Phoenix Force, for the proposed storyline. I originally argued that the Phoenix is obviously a true quintessence force; however, that was shot down by some facts they brought up about the Phoenix, labeling it a false quintessence force.
They said that the Phoenix Force is an abstract entity that while "limitless" isn't without its boundaries. For the Phoenix to operate in its Phoenix form through a host, it relies on drawing the life force from future unborn, thus denying them their existence. Though their existence is dead now, that life force is determined by the Phoenix to be used where it is most needed in the Universe (the law of conservation of energy). Also the Phoenix's duty, "Judgement of the Phoenix" revolves around "burning away what doesn't works" and shifting that energy towards growth in the universe. EVEN when Jean Grey became White Phoenix, they explained how she "manipulated" what already existed, and didn't truly "create" anything actually new. She didn't use her power to actually change the future, she just went back in time to nudge Scott to continue his relationship with Emma, and THAT was what changed the future. My friends kinda groan over the fuss about the White Phoenix being extremely high in power, as her greatest known feat, was somewhat no different from the Avengers changing history in Avengers: Endgame. If anything, they were more impressed with the Avengers as, they were mortals that accomplished this feat, vs. a cosmic entity.
Back on topic, due to the law of Conservation of Energy, they said the Phoenix falls in line with the fact "energy cannot be created or destroyed", and that this principle addresses why the Phoenix can never truly die, as it is energy that simply recycles itself should it be devastated in some way.
NOW... this is where shit gets weird... using their knowledge of "quantum metaphysics" they actually debunked the "theory" of Conservation of Energy Law, stating that there are principles in existence in which can create and consume/annihilate energy at will... and, maybe I'm a dummy, but they did a pretty damn good job convincing me of that argument (no I'm not gonna recite their explanation, cuz its complicated and I don't even remember all that shit). They state that indeed, there are even other characters in the Marvel Universe that in fact, "violate" the law of energy conservation, one particular entity I don't think I'm allowed to mention here, but this "entity" in fact has the power to "create" energy, thus is a violator of "the Law", and possesses "True" quintessence energy; whereas the Phoenix Force is a "False" quintessence force, as it is a bound form of limitless energy, that requires drawing from the future life force to execute its will.
I can't mention who this entity is as, they have "MAJOR" plans for them in this animated series, but stated the reason why this entity is "truly" quintessent is because of a "highly" overlooked quantum metaphysical principle, in which they are going to introduce and explore. This is an entity from Marvel's canon, a very unexpected "entity" that indeed possesses an ability the Phoenix is without... at least according to them.
I'm asking if that's true, that the Phoenix is a "false" quintessence force?
Based on what said, and all the info they brought out about the Phoenix Force... that seems logical and true. I just wanna make sure that is correct, and that... if it IS correct, then what they will propose for the animated series, will in fact be sound with Marvel's canon.