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Spider-man is the working class super hero. Superman hasn't been that character since the Golden Age. Supes would have to be drastically depowered and reconfigured to be that same character.
Bringing back the trunks isn't preventing them from moving the mythology forward. It wasn't really moving forward when he was wearing his Rebirth costume.
He was still raised by farmers, who aren't exactly wealthy or have an easy life. Being a journalist is also still working class. He's about the same as Spider-Man in that regard, except Marvel did the stupid Parker Industries stuff.
And as far as the Flashes go, I wouldn't consider Wally working class because there was a long stretch where he didn't have to work at all what with inheriting the Icicle's money. Which he himself said he didn't even earn and liked to show it off when he was younger.
.... Only because N52 happened, I donīt want to renounce to Jason.. Despite I liked in UNDER RED HOOD as villain, then in the comics.. I prefer him in N52 than as Batman villain..
I am surprised for the fans hate against the RED ROBIN name..
HAHAHAHAHHAA... You gave me one idea if one day I try to make one fanfiction story with Steph and Cass..
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Superman was returned to his status as a Champion of the Oppressed during the New 52 era, and it wasn't welcomed well, to say the least. I would argue that he is today (again) a very paternalistic hero, especially now that he is the father of a super son.
I've never actually heard Superman referred to as "THE Champion Of The Oppressed", outside of one of the early Action Comics titles, I think like #1. Every superhero who fights crime and upholds justice is a defender, champion, protector of the people. Batman fights for the people of Gotham, and has their best interests in mind, thats why he started to fight crime under the cowl in the first place, well one of the major reasons. Green Lantern Hal Jordan is the protector of his sector, which covers Earth and mainly Coast City. "Champion of the oppressed" could be assigned to every major hero within the DC Universe, I think. But there's no denying Superman was the first.
What's happening with him isn't having any impact on the rest of the DCU. Unless you mean Doomsday Clock, which is looking more and more like a Watchmen/General DCU story and not just a Superman one.
Anyway, they're far more about kissing Batman's ass now than doing the same for Superman.
Making him the greatest again would be nostalgic, but I agree that it wouldn't a bad thing. It's not as if moving him away from it has helped him or moved the mythology forward in any way. He died once and got married, and now has a kid shoehorned into things. That's it.
He was the mightiest once and the fictional universe worked fine. Just do it and ignore the whining of the other fanbases, who have no need to be threatened by Superman coming into their book and stealing the thunder.
I'd actually go the other way with it.
Jason and Tim (and Steph and....and....and....) have been Robin. We have the stories in long boxes, and those characters all have their fans who will piss and moan when/if their adventures are retconned away. Or when the characters are written out of the story in any fashion.
So instead of saying they were never Robin (or whoever) say that they were......but move them in a new direction. Tim never planned on being a costumed hero permanently, so just have him retire from being a vigilante and have him become Gordon's right-hand man in the GCPD. Detective Drake has a nice ring to it, and you can keep Tim active in Gotham without him needing a costume. It'd even open up new story avenues you can't quite do with Gordon or Bullock. Jason? I dunno, I liked it when he was a villain honestly. But if you can't do that, have him join Argus or SHADE or the DEO or something.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
I can totally see this happening, but with Jason being an undercover agent for Batman (kind of what King and Seeley did with Nightwing in “Grayson”), though I would prefer the SS with team members that are least profitable so the writer in turn can feel free to kill a few (not constantly)
"The Batman is Gotham City. I will watch him. Study him. And when I know him and why he does not kill, I will know this city. And then Gotham will be MINE!"-BANE
"We're monsters, buddy. Plain and simple. I don't dress it up with fancy names like mutant or post-human; men were born crueler than Apes and we were born crueler than men. It's just the natural order of things"-ULTIMATE SABRETOOTH