Marauders #27 - Review/Spoilers

[GregoryD]

I agree. Reed is/has been of help to the X-men for the majority of their history. Xavier could have approached Reed, told him about the issue with his invention. From there, they could have (1) gotten Reed's agreement to remove the knowledge, (2) removed the memory and make him forget that he lost it, or even (3) worked together (to make the technology beneficial for Krakoa or put in safeguards against it being stolen). Instead, Xavier went the route of purposefully making an enemy out of Reed.

It serves no purpose other than to create a potential conflict between the mutants and Reed. For entertainment-wise, this is an interesting story thread for us readers. But it just doesn't make sense.

The main issue as I see it is that Reed's inventions normally arise out of trying to do something else. Who else is a mutate (all mutants are mutates, not all mutates are mutants) who has powers he doesn't really want and who Reed has been trying to help for years?

That'd be The Thing.

Reed probably came up with it while trying to solve for that problem. By removing his ability to even recall how to create it, they've probably also removed his ability to help his friend. And given that Xavier basically committed psychic rape, Reed will probably has no qualms about ripping everything he needs out of Cerebro until he gets what he's looking for. And since Ororo's only defining characteristic since her marriage to T'Challa has been her supreme arrogance, the ongoing question is going to be how long Doom allows Cerebro's backups to exist at all.

Ororo has always been a hothead, but you'd think Charles would have more sense than that.

There are two rules when dealing with FF adjacent people:

Rule 1. Doesn't matter who starts it, Reed finishes it.
Rule 2. If you eff with Doom and he doesn't immediately retaliate, it's because he is going to make you suffer and wants it to hurt as much as possible.

[CoCoBandz]

Reed is lucky Charles didn't straight up turn him into a drooling zombie for building something so stupid.

[Baron of Faltine]

Reed is lucky Charles didn't straight up turn him into a drooling zombie for building something so stupid.

1) is the same chuck who build not one but two AI who tried to murder the x-men (cerebro, danger) beating even Hank-genocider-pym. House of glasses people
2) if Reed had tobbe lobotomoized every time he build something stupidly dangerous he would be a mindless soup on the floor since the 60's. It is pretty much what he does on daily basis. If it is dangerous JUST for mutants is an improvement. Usually it does spell doom for the whole universe <did you know if not properly tailored, unstable molecules can go ful grey goo apocalyptic mode...one small mistake and everyone is horribly assimilated into unstable molecules..suddenly using one's power butt naked seem the best option>

[CoCoBandz]

1) is the same chuck who build not one but two AI who tried to murder the x-men (cerebro, danger) beating even Hank-genocider-pym. House of glasses people
2) if Reed had tobbe lobotomoized every time he build something stupidly dangerous he would be a mindless soup on the floor since the 60's. It is pretty much what he does on daily basis. If it is dangerous JUST for mutants is an improvement. Usually it does spell doom for the whole universe <did you know if not properly tailored, unstable molecules can go ful grey goo apocalyptic mode...one small mistake and everyone is horribly assimilated into unstable molecules..suddenly using one's power butt naked seem the best option>

Danger is an Ally and Cerebro we'll see. Hank Pym built Ultron. Not even comparable.

But you know what maybe Reed should be lobotomized for good. Stark as well for safe measure. Orchis and it's genocide space station exist because of him after all.

[Baron of Faltine]

Danger is an Ally and Cerebro we'll see. Hank Pym built Ultron. Not even comparable.

But you know what maybe Reed should be lobotomized for good. Stark as well for safe measure. Orchis and it's genocide space station exist because of him after all.

Well in term of quantity chuck won, but if we go for quality. Well is hard to beat Ultron, he make Nimrod look like Bender Rodriguez. Of course if we count the AI created by ultron, we'll Hnak get straight back to the top again.

But really, aaaaaaalllll science guy and gals of MU are terrible, like all of them. Be it mutant , human, eternals, inhumans, atlanteans. What the hell!? (Still faring better than psychiatrist in DC..)

[Doom'nGloom]

What Reed did to Franklin without his consent was wrong and his invention has potential to be dangerous against mutants yet these doesn't justify what Chuck and Mags did to Reed. Without having a conversation first they basically bullied and threatened the guy in his own turf. They are lucky Reed doesn't hold grudges often. If it was someone like Doom or Namor then Krakoa would have a war at its door.

[Habis]

Danger is an Ally and Cerebro we'll see. Hank Pym built Ultron. Not even comparable.

But you know what maybe Reed should be lobotomized for good. Stark as well for safe measure. Orchis and it's genocide space station exist because of him after all.

Why stopping there? Forge and Beast have made dangerous things too. And, if we don't limit ourselves to scientists only, you could add Magik.

Eventually you would end lobotomizing everybody...

[Baron of Faltine]

Why stopping there? Forge and Beast have made dangerous things too. And, if we don't limit ourselves to scientists only, you could add Magik.

Eventually you would end lobotomizing everybody...

Oh yes, let us not forget that mystics too are responsible for triggering armageddon one day yes and one day not. And people of royal bloodlines too. Geee one wonder why the Illuminati screwed things around sooooo hard(..the plan will work smoothly if Hulk does not get angry in the frail spaship we trapped him into....the most smartest people in MU everybody! Yes still cannot believe how stupid they were at the time)

[Habis]

And what about Xavier's Cerebro? It's a device that allows to track and find mutants... what could possibly be more dangerous for mutants that a device that allows their enemies to find and hunt them? Way more dangerous than Reed's Codex-X... Lets lobotomize Xavier too!.

[Doom'nGloom]

And what about Xavier's Cerebro? It's a device that allows to track and find mutants... what could possibly be more dangerous for mutants that a device that allows their enemies to find and hunt them? Way more dangerous than Reed's Codex-X... Lets lobotomize Xavier too!.

You know who already poses a greater threat to Krakoa than Reed's hypothetical anti-mutant device? Logan, since the guy donated many copies of his adamantium skeleton to ORCHIS like he's donating blood.

[CoCoBandz]

And what about Xavier's Cerebro? It's a device that allows to track and find mutants... what could possibly be more dangerous for mutants that a device that allows their enemies to find and hunt them? Way more dangerous than Reed's Codex-X... Lets lobotomize Xavier too!.

You show me a non mutant, non telepath using Forges new Cerebro.

You know who already poses a greater threat to Krakoa than Reed's hypothetical anti-mutant device? Logan, since the guy donated many copies of his adamantium skeleton to ORCHIS like he's donating blood.

What are they gonna do? Send an army of fake Logans to get liquified by Magneto and Polaris?

[Doom'nGloom]

What are they gonna do? Send an army of fake Logans to get liquified by Magneto and Polaris?

If it was that easy Chuck and Mags wouldn't have died in Inferno #4. Besides at least ORCHIS has something substantial in their hands with adamantium. With codex-x all we are talking about is a hypothesis.

[Habis]

You show me a non mutant, non telepath using Forges new Cerebro.

There are lots of non-mutant telepaths, you know. On top of my head I remember Mantis, Moondragon, Sundragon, Hellcat, Wraith, Dr. Druid, Sersi, Druig, Comet Man, Marvel Boy, Cosmo, Man-Beast, High Evolutionary, Futurist, Madam Web...etc.

Orchis probably could find one if they tried.

[CoCoBandz]

If it was that easy Chuck and Mags wouldn't have died in Inferno #4. Besides at least ORCHIS has something substantial in their hands with adamantium. With codex-x all we are talking about is a hypothesis.

Charles and Magneto didn't fight against adamantium in I4 they fought against Nimrod and OS. Not even remotely the same thing.

[CoCoBandz]

There are lots of non-mutant telepaths, you know. On top of my head I remember Mantis, Moondragon, Sundragon, Hellcat, Wraith, Dr. Druid, Sersi, Druig, Comet Man, Marvel Boy, Cosmo, Man-Beast, High Evolutionary, Futurist, Madam Web...etc.

Orchis probably could find one if they tried.

Yes and why would any of them help or even know what Orchis is?

Plus Sentinels have had mutant identifying technology for decades so the entire point is moot.