If we include kodiak browns some adult males reach 1500 lbs. In my opinion the most powerful land predator on earth is the bear.
If we include kodiak browns some adult males reach 1500 lbs. In my opinion the most powerful land predator on earth is the bear.
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
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"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran
Arx Inosaan
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
As a corollary to this, ALL primates in general deal very badly with pain and shock. I.e. as a rule, they aren't able to "power through" fatal wounds as other animals would.
So while the bear might get a powerup from adrenaline, wounds and scratches on the gorilla would actually hinder its performance, maybe even send it into shock where it would instinctively crawl into a ball to protect is vital organs. Its just bad biology.
I wonder what Zangeif has got that the gorilla hasn't.
at a certain point size and strength can just overwhelm fighting technique and skill, add to this that a Gorilla and apes in general simply don't have the fine motor control a human has to fully utilize fighting technique and that a large Grizzly or Polar bear is going to be well over 1000 lbs heavier than a large Gorilla and it's still a stomp
OP sez black bear.
I still feel the bear takes it. Primate bodies aren't the same as ours so the training isn't going to carry over much (and be less effective against a non-human opponent...unless your name is Zangief, you don't train to fight bears). The masses are similar. Bears have much better natural weaponry and thicker fur for what little protection that gives.
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Black Bear size varies wildly by region and season but large males over 1000 lbs have been found in the wild, so it's not like they're small either, even normal large American Black Bears break 500 lbs.
2 Silverbacks vs 1 Bear might be more equal.