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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    He’s trying to make littler of the issue to better dismiss it and act like they were producing good content despite the color. I usually try to give Didio the benefit of the doubt, but I call bullshit on that statement.
    Same. I try to look at things from a business perspective and attempt to understand the behind-the-scenes reasoning in the industry (even when I disagree with it as a fan), and with a solid grasp of basic business principals you can normally see where someone is coming from and what the drivers are in a decision. But when it comes to Didio and Nightwing, everything he says is suspect. I'm not one of those fans who thinks Didio was the devil or anything, but I'm convinced that nearly every choice he made concerning Dick, Wally, and to a lesser extent the other NTT, was totally slanted by his personal bias. Nothing else makes any sense to me.

    I didn't always agree with Didio's choices, but I could usually understand why he was making them. But with Nightwing, the crap he did simply didn't seem to be supported by business logic. Even making huge allowances for the fact that this industry has its own quirks and tricks that we're not privy to, the way Dick was often handled under Didio made no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    You can worry about both, because the story and the character wasn’t being done particularly well either with the launch of the New 52. It’s odd that he thinks it was.
    Was it doing well financially?

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    Yeah, the New 52 Nightwing book sold well. It was helped that its first few volumes tied in so heavily with Batman's Court of Owls story which was the best selling New 52 story overall from any book. The big problem with the Owls overall regardless of how you feel about them is that the Court of Owls story wasn't a Dick Grayson story. It was very much written around Bruce, which made sense because it was written in Batman, and those first few New 52 Nightwing volumes read very awkward to me looking back. Then despite changing Dick's background a lot it didn't really become this defining story that it probably should have been for Dick in the end. So Dick is kind of stuck in this weird position of constantly being dragged back to the Owls with no GREAT Court of Owls story centered on Dick to make it worth it. So now Dick has this weird relationship with the Owls that feels muddled every time they throw them into one of his stories.

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    Nightwing benefitted from the reboot sales wise, it’s just that DC completely failed to build him up as a solo character because Higgins run kept getting derailed by tie-ins. The more things change…
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    The first Webtoon with Dick in it has finally been posted, for those of us who are to cheap to pay for early release. It was pretty cute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Nightwing View Post
    The first Webtoon with Dick in it has finally been posted, for those of us who are to cheap to pay for early release. It was pretty cute
    And surprisingly did not emphasize his butt .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    And surprisingly did not emphasize his butt .
    The butt in the fandom tend to only show up in pin-up, porn, or specific comedy. It doesn't show up in Bat fam fan comics or regular art, not even in the shipping art if it's more about the romance or cuteness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    And surprisingly did not emphasize his butt .
    I was pleasantly surprised. Also he wasn't eating cereal, so that's a big plus too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    The butt in the fandom tend to only show up in pin-up, porn, or specific comedy. It doesn't show up in Bat fam fan comics or regular art, not even in the shipping art if it's more about the romance or cuteness.
    It depends if you see enough Grayson art the donk appears quite frequently

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    Robin #6 preview



    Blue Shrike is the brother of Yellow Shrike... Omigosh they really Discount-Sub-Zero-ing Shrike. There's the mentor, the yellow, and now the brother, the blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    Robin #6 preview



    Blue Shrike is the brother of Yellow Shrike... Omigosh they really Discount-Sub-Zero-ing Shrike. There's the mentor, the yellow, and now the brother, the blue.
    I want a Red Shrike now.

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    There is a bunch of Nightwing villains in that preview.
    DC: Dick Grayson, Wally West, Donna Troy, Yara Flor, Titans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    There is a bunch of Nightwing villains in that preview.
    A chunk of the contenders have been assassins and thieves from Dixon run

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    There's rumours that there's Red Hood movie in development for HBO and that it will tie in with the Nightwing movie. Screenshot_20210923-222118_Twitter.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Nightwing View Post
    There's rumours that there's Red Hood movie in development for HBO and that it will tie in with the Nightwing movie. Screenshot_20210923-222118_Twitter.jpg
    Well of course, they need the complete set, it's not like DC thinks any of this characters are worth anything by themself.

    Just look at Nightwing book, if he can't have his own book why would he have his own movie. Fantastic job in making the character an A list.

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