Judgment Day #2 Review/Spoilers

[Zoks]

Anyone here hoping that if another of the 6 humans died to resurrect a Eternal.. It be Tom who had dbag views on the mutants and their genocide.

I want Daniela to go out next. Three jobs? She needs the break.

[Glio]

The Celestial probably has Sinister's absolutism. That look on his face looks like a proud parent.

Sinister is not an absolutist, he is a solipsist and a nihilist. He doesn't believe that any other person in the world is actually a person, they are just things. It's not his style to judge anyone because he just doesn't care. Stark and Ajak have made it very clear that they have not allowed him to add any of his personality to the Celestial.

Of course Sinister may have outwitted them and tricked them. But the Celestial doesn't seem like his style to me. Sinister does not distinguish between good and bad people, they are all just a resource for him.

[Rift]

If Jada dies, she can reunite with her daughter.

[JB]

Since we know the story shifts away from the X-Men and Eternals fighting each other, I guess that means the X-Men won't get to clapback in the main book. That sucks. I know it sounds like we'll get something in the X-Men tie-in, but after seeing Krakoa and Arakko devastated, and the mutants about to be wiped from existence, I really wish we could've had an issue of the main event where they strike back HARD and make Druig stagger.

I was thinking about that too and I think things are going to be very tense between the mutants and Eternals with the Avengers trying to keep the peace. The Avengers were forced to go out and try to rescue civilians due to the Eternals' actions, and Krakoa is damaged, so the Eternals have a lot to answer for. I suspect some Eternals may be killed and that's how everyone will eventually learn about a human dying in order for them to be resurrected.
Gillen said though things become a little more philosophical, the scale of the event isn't sacrificed.

[Zoks]

Sinister is not an absolutist, he is a solipsist and a nihilist. He doesn't believe that any other person in the world is actually a person, they are just things. It's not his style to judge anyone because he just doesn't care. Stark and Ajak have made it very clear that they have not allowed him to add any of his personality to the Celestial.

Of course Sinister may have outwitted them and tricked them. But the Celestial doesn't seem like his style to me. Sinister does not distinguish between good and bad people, they are all just a resource for him.

Yeah I misused that term, I meant to imply his preference for absolute solutions, not his political philosophy. Basically the whole "just get rid them all" solution is something completely out of his playbook.

[Tank]

If Jada dies, she can reunite with her daughter.

Lol this made me laugh more than it should.

[CoCoBandz]

This event reminds me that they need to create a new Unity squad

No they do not.

Every unity squad book was a disaster. "M wurd, muh name is Alecc".

[Dante Milton]

This issue felt like it should have been the midpoint of the event, it feels rushed. The Schiti and Gracia art is beautiful. The actiony bits are good, I liked seeing Exodus get his feats in after his Immortal issue was more character focused. The plot is fine. But the focus is way too broad and spread out among too many characters, which results in really superficial character work. I find it difficult to become invested in the plot when the writing isn't making me care about the characters, and right now I don't. A couple of panels are not enough to get me to care about the civilian characters, but I also don't want them taking up any more space, so the idea should have been dropped. Gillen's Jean feels off. Sinister and Exodus were the highlights.

[Hulkout42]

This was painful to read, i mean for once the Avengers proactively go to help the mutants and then some act like "Why are these a-holes here?", then i don't know why they need to have Cap say something to Scott about trust about the resurrection bit...i mean they were doing well with them bringing the Avengers as support and then that gets dropped, why? I mean really why is it needed to drop that line as they are fighting Kaiju Eternals. And are Jean and Scott the only ones aware that the fights is causing upheavals in the environment (Tsunamis and quakes) and therefore innocent people are going to be killed so naturally someone has to save them? Because having the next panel showing the mutants reacting the way they did just really took me out of it.

About the only thing that surprised me was that Sinister did not pull a fast one on the plan to resurrect the Celestial...not that it mattered because that plan went sideways so fast!

[MythicalChicken]

This was painful to read, i mean for once the Avengers proactively go to help the mutants and then some act like "Why are these a-holes here?", then i don't know why they need to have Cap say something to Scott about trust about the resurrection bit...i mean they were doing well with them bringing the Avengers as support and then that gets dropped, why? I mean really why is it needed to drop that line as they are fighting Kaiju Eternals. And are Jean and Scott the only ones aware that the fights is causing upheavals in the environment (Tsunamis and quakes) and therefore innocent people are going to be killed so naturally someone has to save them? Because having the next panel showing the mutants reacting the way they did just really took me out of it.

About the only thing that surprised me was that Sinister did not pull a fast one on the plan to resurrect the Celestial...not that it mattered because that plan went sideways so fast!

Well that's actually realistic ... "ally" in modern times is euphemism for "punching bag and easy target while nothing actually changes to improve anyone's lives." Hard truth.

That's as someone who despises the Avengers in X-books with every fiber of my being, still. But it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Huntsman Spider]

Anyone here hoping that if another of the 6 humans died to resurrect a Eternal.. It be Tom who had dbag views on the mutants and their genocide.

Generally, it would be interesting from a tragicomic or ironic standpoint to see some of these humans who've been cheering on the Eternals' genocide of the mutants react to themselves or their loved ones being sacrificed as fuel for the resurrections of those same Eternals, given that the ones under Druig's leadership, at the very least, care even less for baseline humans than all the mutants of Krakoa and Arrako combined, and the Eternals don't have in-universe years/decades of persecution and (attempted) genocide by baseline humanity to make that stance sympathetic. That said, the ending with the newborn Celestial . . . can't say it's entirely in the wrong, especially when you take the real world into account, what with the planet being on the verge of catastrophic ecological collapse and the people on it (still) being far more inclined to squabble and scramble for power and status and wealth, even if it comes at the expense of other people or the planet itself, than work together and make a better future for everyone.

[MAR420X]

had this book yesterday am to read but finally just did.. it was awful..

boring and some of the characterization narrative focus is falling flat in Kieron Gillen work rite now.

i just want this event to be over to be honest.

[Metal Sphere]

This went exactly as Gillen said it would, and he was not kidding in saying it would become a lot more philosophical while maintaining the scale and scope. This is NOT a problem you can punch or blast away, either.

As Huntsman said, the newly created Celestial isn't wrong. It's NOT a human being, but it has elements of its creators and elements of Arishem (The Judge), the Dreaming Celestial, and the Celestials in general. Whether the real world of MU, the folks on Earth suck when taken objectively.

What's going to be interesting is the reaction of the other Celestials to this creation and its actions. Will they go along with its judgement as a new Host visiting the Earth, or will they take issue with it deciding for itself over the groups desires?

Edit: Forgot to mention: It sounds like Syne knows the cost of her resurrection.

[Antarctic]

Ah yes I just remembered why I don't like these crossover events... I don't care about the eternals or avengers or whatever. I'm having AVX flashbacks just when I quit reading comics.

At least Exodus naked panel made me laugh, lol.

[Outburstz]

This was painful to read, i mean for once the Avengers proactively go to help the mutants and then some act like "Why are these a-holes here?", then i don't know why they need to have Cap say something to Scott about trust about the resurrection bit...i mean they were doing well with them bringing the Avengers as support and then that gets dropped, why? I mean really why is it needed to drop that line as they are fighting Kaiju Eternals. And are Jean and Scott the only ones aware that the fights is causing upheavals in the environment (Tsunamis and quakes) and therefore innocent people are going to be killed so naturally someone has to save them? Because having the next panel showing the mutants reacting the way they did just really took me out of it.

About the only thing that surprised me was that Sinister did not pull a fast one on the plan to resurrect the Celestial...not that it mattered because that plan went sideways so fast!

It's pretty obvious because the Avengers don't prioritize the mutants. When bad things happen to mutants its usually the X-men or other mutant faction that deals with it.

Yet Cap and the other Avengers still feel this right to know all of Krakoa secrets like no you don't.

The Avengers think that they are all in this together but Mutants know the reality that isn't the case cause the Avengers are going to focus on other things.