Exactly, I can't square this away with either one of them. I don't like it, I don't think it does anything positive for the characters.
There's no point, I think it just tickles certain people's fancy.
It is incredibly likely that this scenario could play out, and then you'd have some overzealous Jean fans throwing hate at Scott and then some of his overzealous fans firing back...
Does it need doing?
Yes.
Then it will be done.
The girl is smart. :)
None of them deserve any sympathy for the abusive stuff they did to both Scott and Jean.
Yes, I can be this petty! :P
More than that, if you’re going to come up with something like that, at the very least try to establish it as a mature relationship that evolved to that stage?
It’d be really hard to sell considering we’re talking about these two particular characters. But if you’re not going to do *anything* with this relationship… why even bother?
I know… It’s exhausting, particularly when you’re fan of both characters, because then you feel annoyed for both of them. *sigh*
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Thanks for sharing, Placid Mule. That is so cool! I love his art! :)
I wish he could draw some of the books as well! :)
Don't panic tough, remember the teasers are pretty misleading.
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Agreed he mostly took the initiative to talk out their issues but sometimes it looks like he depends on them understanding without talking but that´s a more modern take on him and in the Krakoa era he´s been very open to the idea of talking even if he looks content.
AgreedIt was a different place indeed. Scott was dealing with a huge trauma in MorrisonÂ’s run.
The comparison wasnÂ’t about how bad it was. It was about the fact that Scott only gets confused about Jean when heÂ’s emotionally unstable. Now, we could try to think about why that happens. I think itÂ’s some deep, screwed-up process that has to do with fear of abandonment, fear of loss, control-freak meltdown and some other stuff that is really not conscious.
Agreed.The choice was to let his baby die in his arms, so of course he wouldnÂ’t make this choice. The problem is that he didnÂ’t know yet that he would be given the opportunity the raise Nathan and that Nathan wasnÂ’t Strife. ThatÂ’s what shook him: he thought Strife was the son he sent to the future and who became that way because he grew up hating his father.
AgreedYes, Morrison came up with a reason for it to be very difficult for them to communicate. And all their problems come from that. At its core, it was really just a matter of not being able to communicate. Of course, this is a problem for any couple and, at some point, it becomes really big.
I meet her with that uniform so it´s got a special place in my heart but I like her better with the gold/white and green/goldShe survived her 90s uniform and made *that* iconic. Anything woks on her. I really don’t worry about that.
I don´t find the insufferable but they do make for good entertaiment XDLook, when both parties are insufferable, it can make good entertainment. So I’m all in.
Those writers are evil, they know what upsets us and choose to do it again on purpose XD but I guess we would be bored if they didn´t do thatThe things those writers do our hearts, right? To love comics is to suffer, I suppose.
I agree but I like to remember Nathan had two Moms and it´s important because both loved and cared for him at some point. I hate it when comics make one relationship more important than the other because they care more about one of the characters. They have done it better in recent times but this still can be an issue but mostly I felt Maddie was given a horrible narrative and even if writers planned to have Scott and Jean be together again, I think she should have been allowed to leave with dygnity and to keep her love for her Son at least. I love the fact Jean loves Cable but I dislike how in some writers minds it´s done in comparision with Maddie falling to madness and abusing her Son.Jean really adopts Nathan after Inferno already. Both baby and she connect back at the orphanage, when they first met. And that was before Jean gets Madelyne’s memories, so her feelings for the baby are really her feelings. Louise wrote a real bond between mother and son. The writers that follow just decided to forget how deeply that woman loved that child from the moment they met.
I do it sometimes because it helps me to get they are coming from even if I don´t quite see it in the story, it´s just fun to me to compare if what they wanted to do it´s really what´s been seen on the page.I very rarely take the writer’s point of view under consideration. I mostly look at what it is written. That’s how we judge the work from all other kinds of writers out there. Personally, I don’t think comic book writers should get special treatment.
Well Onslaught was the villain of the story so it makes sense he saw him in a negative way, what put force to his words was that he was Charles suppresed dark half so it gave the reader the idea what if he really thinks that way about Scott? How could him? but well Scott of course has his own motives and ways to approach his personal mission and his caring for people but I guess some fans just didn´t see that.That is so reductive of the character, though. Of any character in that position.
So if you choose to follow someoneÂ’s leadership because you trust them, that means you disconnect your brain and donÂ’t have individual thoughts anymore? Same if you love someone? I call it BS. Especially when it comes to Scott Summers, the man who is often accused of thinking too much. This is just another echo chamber based on personal feelings.
AgreedTrue. I meant the opportunity was lost for now.
"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
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