carol danvers costume change

[Danileriver23]

I thought this was funny. Credit to Theamat of DeviantArt.

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...But Cyborg doesn't even wear clothes. haha

[JudicatorPrime]

Yeah but the last two times Diana got pants everybody complained.

No doubt, a vast number of people were not pleased with the change. Wonder Woman will always be a tough call to make, because there are probably more fans that like her showing "strategic skin" than not, both men and women. But I don't think anyone wants her back in a bathing suit, unless that particular story is about water Olympics on Paradise Island or Atlantis and Diane is competing.

Frankly, I can go either way when it comes to Diana. I personally don't have an issue with a costume similar to below, but I can see how some might prefer a more covered up version. That said, I wouldn't want to see Carol in a costume like this. Or Jean Grey. Or Black Widow. Or Jubilee. Or Misty Knight. Or Spider-Woman. Or any number of women characters. It just doesn't speak to their personality, origins or character profile.

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[mathew101281]

No doubt, a vast number of people were not pleased with the change. Wonder Woman will always be a tough call to make, because there are probably more fans that like her showing "strategic skin" than not, both men and women. But I don't think anyone wants her back in a bathing suit, unless that particular story is about water Olympics on Paradise Island or Atlantis and Diane is competing.

Frankly, I can go either way when it comes to Diana. I personally don't have an issue with a costume similar to below, but I can see how some might prefer a more covered up version. That said, I wouldn't want to see Carol in a costume like this. Or Jean Grey. Or Black Widow. Or Jubilee. Or Misty Knight. Or Spider-Woman. Or any number of women characters. It just doesn't speak to their personality, origins or character profile.

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This one makes more sense then both the swim suit or the pants. it's similar to what an amazon might actually wear.

[Wiccan]

The Carol Danvers Ms Marvel costume change designed by Cockrum was in step with the Women's Liberation/Sexual freedom mores of the day. A powerful woman displaying her powerful body BECAUSE SHE COULD. A different type of empowering (with a side order of fan service and male gaze, certainly) but fitting the characters development as a glamorous editor of a women's magazine etc. The keyword there being "glamorous". Or at least the perception of glamour thru the eyes of male artist. It fit the direction of the Carol Danvers at the time as the All-New Ms Marvel.

There isn't really that much of a difference from this costume to her previous one when it comes to showing skin. This one shows her arms and the boots are longer. That's it. It was a stylistic choice.

[Alan2099]

What's the point of a mask for somebody without a secret identity?

Style. The same purpose most super hero costumes serve.

I think I'd like Carol's costume better if it got rid of the seams and the zipper running down the front.

[Arfguy]

Style. The same purpose most super hero costumes serve.

I think I'd like Carol's costume better if it got rid of the seams and the zipper running down the front.

I dunno...it's a really boring looking costume, IMO. I don't know if it could be simplified more to make it better, but right now it just looks wrong. I think it was David Lopez who drew the costume with a bomber jacket for a cover and it looked much better, but man did it look like she was ripping off the Rogue look

[JudicatorPrime]

Watching the fashions at award show galas always makes me go, "Hmmm?" What are the odds of Carol wearing something like Catherine Zeta Jones' Golden Globes dress? Ever.

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[Da Boat]

Lightning Bolt look was really the best.

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

Not only that but it is also true to the comicbook character Carol Danvers' character trait of wanting to be her 'own woman'.

I'm in favor of the lightning bolt costume.

The black & gold WARBIRD!

[Carabas]

Not only that but it is also true to the comicbook character Carol Danvers' character trait of wanting to be her 'own woman'.

What does that even mean?

That she wants her own individual costume and title? She joined the goddamn military!

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

I still miss the simplicity of her classic black costume designed by Dave Cockrum.

Was it black? I always though it was dark blue in color,kinda similar to Thor's original costume?

You are absolutely correct.
I myself made the mistake of thinking the All-New Ms. Marvel costume being black & gold while in truth it is navy blue & gold.

Busiek and Pérez clearly showed this in the above panels of Avengers #4 May 1998 while introducing the BLACK & GOLD WARBIRD costume.

I'm pretty sure it's black.

I'm pretty sure it's navy blue.

Dark blue is how her Cap costume was usually colored before Anka's redesign.

Why the decision by marvel comics to not maintain the dark blue

[Kurt Busiek]

Why the decision by marvel comics to not maintain the dark blue

Used to be, in the old days of mechanically-separated 64-choices color, that when something was black with blue highlights, that meant black.

That's why Superman had blue hair for decades -- it wasn't meant to be read as blue, but as black.

So when Dave Cockrum designed that costume for Carol, I "read" it as black, and thought it was very sharp. When we brought Carol into AVENGERS, I wanted to bring back that costume, and since color technology had changed, I asked that the highlights be colored dark gray, to make it clear it was black.

And it looked good that way.

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

It most certainly did look good that way and I also appreciated it very much that whenever the comicbook character Carol Danvers recounted her history

as the navy-blue and gold Ms. Marvel, the colors depicted were accurate!

[JudicatorPrime]

What does that even mean?

That she wants her own individual costume and title? She joined the goddamn military!

But it's true. It was part of her separating from her identification with, well, Captain Mar-Vell. Ironic that she's now taking the nom de guerre as her own. Wish her current costume was better than it is now. But I'm always for characters having new costumes. Gives the new artists something to do.

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

Carol Danvers Costume Change