Oh, certainly. I'm just saying that they might be looking at this on a bit of a sliding scale due to what it is, much like L&C. But I agree that it definitely doesn't have anything to do with internet chatter.
Yeah - I'd say it hurts more devoted readership for that reason, if anything.
I'm enjoying that take, too. If this was any other family, it wouldn't work. But they're *not* any other family, and that's why it does - if that makes any sense.
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Love how the posters in this thread moved the goalposts...they were running up and down about how jon won't be shipped off and Chris kented...but now we are witnessing it and now we get long pretentious(they are pretentious attempts to give superman flaws...family as blindspot is a absolute worse way of going about making superman complex) essays about how Clark never would be "good with family". This is why batman will always be better. They do not abandon the family aspect.
Bendis ruined the superman family and any writer that makes his run entirely centered on undoing this mess will be the only thing that will ever make me ever purchase a superman book again
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Yeah, I think it's a really great place to put Superman. It acknowledges him as a vulnerable and flawed character with stuff to emotionally work through, and it plays to the scale that he and family would naturally work at. Like, I can't tell you how happy I am that Chaz is a thing, and that Lois is totally part of it like it's a normal date night.
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Can't wait for legion to crash and burn. Absolute disaster of a decision
Like, what is this? What actually is this? Do you wanna have a conversation? Do you have a point that you want to debate? Or are you just gonna take these childish snipes into the void hoping to rustle the jimmies of people who like a thing you don't-- people you don't even have the common courtesy to directly speak to?
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I'd prefer a 10-year old Jon S. Kent, myself, but it's a stretch to say he's being Chris Kent'd.
What I like is that, so far at least, they've found a way to balance these "flaws" in a way that doesn't scream "flaws just to add flaws" and still has a very strong Superman vibe to his characterization. That's not an easy line to walk, and it's being walked quite well imo. My brain isn't rolling it's eyes like it usually does in these things (I'm looking at the '00s and DCEU as an example/comparison for that).
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Jon isn't the character to use for that. he isn't Robin, Damian or Batman and as a Tomasi and Gleason fan I'm planning on boycotting this Title just like I've boycotted everything Bendis touches till the age up is undone. I consider everything Bendis is doing on the super title an insult to the work Tomasi and Gleason put so much hardwork and dedication into.
By your logic they might as well use Zoom Damian to headline TT.
I personally don't want or need Jon in TT he doesn't fit into Damian's TT at all. other TT sure but not this gritty line up.
Supersons was unique there was no need to cancel it and no Tomasi has said that he's done with Supersons for a while. I never understood how some fans can have strong negative feelings for a creator just because of comics. I get it now.
What about those of us who were voting with our wallets on the old title which DC cancelled despite good sales? Did it ever occur to you that that might have been a slap in the face? That my vote meant so little that DC was willing to cancel a title fans loved and supported with their wallets whilst keeping stuff that fans weren't supporting with their wallets going? Like Bat girl, RHATO, GA, BB? Half the DC roster of books were selling less than Supersons when they cancelled it to give us an out of continuity book that had zero stakes which for a lot killed their interest
Right now I'm considering dropping Nightwing because of Ric but if I do will posters like you and DC blame falling sales on the Character rather than a bad decision that has failed to keep my interest in a title and character that I love? Which was the case with Adventures of the Supersons.
Please don't casually toss out vote with your wallets when it isn't as black and white or as straight forward as that.
I am voting with my wallet. I'm buying the original supersons Omni and I bought every Issue of the old series. I will not support a direction I dislike though which was the case for the Adventures of the Supersons. If you want to gauge support for the supersons then do it fairly and use the series before bendis messed with things.
I'm sure you wouldn't use the current Nightwing to gauge fan response to the Nightwing Title so don't do the same with Supersons.
Last edited by CPSparkles; 06-17-2019 at 11:24 PM.
Not may characters are, but he is both Superboy, and Superman's in continuity son. That alone makes him easily recognizable and very easily to sell on a cover to a perspective reader. I'd say he very much is the character to use for that in the absence of your Robins, Batmans, and Supermans.
This thread is kind of heated, so I really wanna make it clear that this isn't any sort of snark or sass, but, no, I don't think that works along the lines of my logic. How does that correlate?By your logic they might as well use Zoom Damian to headline TT.
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We walk on the path to Secher Nbiw. Though hard fought, we walk the Golden Path.
I don't know how easily recognisable Jon is. Conner yeah but Jon not so much.
Conner would have been the better option for the face of Legion not the barely known Superboy Jon.
Damian Ian Wayne is similar to 17 year old Jon Kent in that he is a controversial drastically altered version of a character that has a large portion of the fan base loudly voicing their dislike of that version.
An unpopular version of a character that pisses a lot of fans off. DC already had a better known more popular Superboy that could act as a face of Young justice.
Jon was already divisive even before the age up he isn't a good figure to headline that title. How many fans here who are looking forward to the
Legion title are doing so because of Jon?
How many Jon Kent fans here are going to be picking up the title for Jon.
Who is picking up that title for Jon?
i can't see many people doing so. The Jon Kent fans on here seem to be very much against it and some are even boycotting. The fans on this thread and on the DC thread who are looking forward to the title are doing so because they are fans of the group nothing to do with Jon.
Conner has more chances of bringing in fans to that title than Jon does. he is much more recognisable and as easy to sell on the cover.
Conner has outside media popularity just like Damian and batman which makes them better options if you are looking for someone to bring fans in.
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