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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf36 View Post
    Some interesting Wanda news from Strange Academy with Beast wanting her to try a Krakoan gate.

    Why? So he can parade her around like Colossus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Charles made it pretty clear that he was a mutant because he dreamed of being special that he altered every cell in his body to do so. You would really expect after he fought Sentinels with the Power Pack, fought the Marauders with the Power Pack, confronted his "villainous" DOFP self and outright wished he wasn't a mutant because he didn't want to grow up to become a bad person with all that power, that he would stop being a mutant. Even then, Abraxas burned out his powers to the point he was a normal human. I'm surprised no one did any x-gene activity analysis and noticed it was missing.

    There are contrivances that make this story work and then there is outright laziness. It's not as bad as the shuttle crash retcon, but it's a really close second.
    He kinda of day dreamed about being mutant and it happened without him noticing it.

    Him being mutant born or not, he could had made himself not mutant all this time out of fear of not being hunted.

    It's not a big plot hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf36 View Post
    Some interesting Wanda news from Strange Academy with Beast wanting her to try a Krakoan gate.
    It's a joke page in a Doctor Strange spinoff comic, it's not related to Marvel's actual plans.

    You can tell because Wanda's friends like Carol, Steve and Hank McCoy are actually in touch with her, which is almost never allowed to happen in the actual comics.

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    About this, it could honestly be explained as Professor X telling off Franklin because he recognizes that he needs to stay with his family until a proper solution is available so he's being a jerk or blah blah blah. There are plenty of ways to write off this retcon, which is tantamount to the villains' motivation in Get Out, really.

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    Franklin just joins a long list of mutants that turn out to not be mutants. Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Squirrel Girl, Toro, Quake, Cloak and Dagger and possibly others. I personally don't think Franklin will remain a non mutant though and this this is plot related but i guess we will see in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf36 View Post
    Franklin just joins a long list of mutants that turn out to not be mutants. Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Squirrel Girl, Toro, Quake, Cloak and Dagger and possibly others. I personally don't think Franklin will remain a non mutant though and this this is plot related but i guess we will see in the future.
    Other than Squirrel Girl, the rest of those should turn back to mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexelhand View Post
    About this, it could honestly be explained as Professor X telling off Franklin because he recognizes that he needs to stay with his family until a proper solution is available so he's being a jerk or blah blah blah. There are plenty of ways to write off this retcon, which is tantamount to the villains' motivation in Get Out, really.
    Xavier's warning raises further questions. To know what Franklin was doing requires him to spying on Franklin, without Franklin's knowledge or consent since at least FF/X-men. If he'd doing this to a confused teenage mutant how many other mutants is he doing this with? Is he peeping on everyone's mind in Krakoa? Is there no privacy on Krakoa from Xavier? Aside from Shaw, who has protections his mind with technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    You would expect he would probably not want to be a mutant anymore after being hunted by a Sentinel (Power Pack #17) and seeing the Morlocks get massacred (Power Pack #27) would make him reconsider that, but nope!
    I'm not sure why you're operating on the fact that he did it intentionally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexelhand View Post
    About this, it could honestly be explained as Professor X telling off Franklin because he recognizes that he needs to stay with his family until a proper solution is available so he's being a jerk or blah blah blah. There are plenty of ways to write off this retcon, which is tantamount to the villains' motivation in Get Out, really.

    I doubt that was really Xavier and that this is a true retcon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf36 View Post
    Some interesting Wanda news from Strange Academy with Beast wanting her to try a Krakoan gate.

    Krakoa talks about her like she's the devil, I don't think Beast is asking for her to try to cross it with good intentions, they'd probably try to stone her lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf36 View Post
    Some interesting Wanda news from Strange Academy with Beast wanting her to try a Krakoan gate.

    Don't forget Magneto with his Krakoan email trying to reach out to Wanda and Pietro despite not being their actual father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Don't forget Magneto with his Krakoan email trying to reach out to Wanda and Pietro despite not being their actual father.
    That tugged at my heart a little. I actually really like the idea that he still loves those two like his own children. Even if he wasn't exactly a good father to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    Krakoa talks about her like she's the devil, I don't think Beast is asking for her to try to cross it with good intentions, they'd probably try to stone her lol.
    Yeah they reeeeeeally don't take kindly to "pretenders" [eyeroll]. Maybe Charles was telling Franklin not to come back for his own safety lol
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    'insert that ITS A TRAP meme here'

    Yeah Beast is totally trying to lure her in to lynch her. At this point it would be far more in character for him to do that than it would be for him to be friendly with her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post
    Franklin has been a mutant for a few decades. Being a mutant in Marvel comics inherently comes with metaphorical meaning, any writer working with a mutant character should consider that, otherwise they can unwittingly write something that can pretty easily be interpreted as offensive, see Remender's Call me Alex speech. Slott is under no obligation to acknowledge Zdarsky's exact use of the metaphor, but that doesn't make the general metaphor go away.
    The concept of Mutants in the Marvel Universe only exist because Stan Lee wanted a simple explanation for how multiple characters had super powers instead of coming up with a million ways in which an accident gave it to them. The metaphor exists to cover up that Lee just wanted easy ways for super powers to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    The concept of Mutants in the Marvel Universe only exist because Stan Lee wanted a simple explanation for how multiple characters had super powers instead of coming up with a million ways in which an accident gave it to them. The metaphor exists to cover up that Lee just wanted easy ways for super powers to exist.
    Yes, we went from “super-beings that were born like that” to “super-beings that have the X-gene and are members of a species”. The rest is ideology.

    What exactly prevents Franklin to live on Krakoa? A xenophobic and choosy island? The mutants have decided to live on Krakoa. It’s a political choice. Otherwise, you just consider that the mutants are not masters of their destiny.
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